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Where did you read the technical arguments? The article doesn't mention them. In fact, the article is very light on information, and only left me confused about

Where did you read the technical arguments? The article doesn't mention them. In fact, the article is very light on information, and only left me confused about the situation, like why are the presidents supporters calling for a coup? And how does blocking a dozen accounts change anything, really? Would the people behind them not simply open more sockpuppet accounts?

ratww 6y ago
> why are the presidents supporters calling for a coup Acts asking for a militar coup have been happening for the last few years among the radical right. Their demands are not clear enough, so most news reports are about them happening and events surrounded them, such as the president appearing in some of them. [1] [2] --- I'm not going to guess what they want, so let's just translate what their banners say. Hopefully I can be unbiased. - "Military intervention / Close the supreme court and congress / With Bolsonaro as president" [3] - "Military tribunal", "Criminalize Communism", among others I can't read [4]. - "Military intervention so that Bolsonaro can govern". In the back: "criminalize communism" [5]. - "AI-5 with Bolsonaro in power" [6]. The last one is about AI-5. AI-5, according to Wiki: "resulted in the forfeiture of mandates, interventions ordered by the President in municipalities and states and also in the suspension of any constitutional guarantees which eventually resulted in the institutionalization of the torture commonly used as a tool by the State." [7] The previous reference is in english. --- > And how does blocking a dozen accounts change anything, really? Would the people behind them not simply open more sockpuppet accounts? Some of them are under house arrest and forbidden from using social networks. [7] The others are stopped for different reasons, but according to a news website "there's still no information about the reasons". [8] If they open sock puppets, this will probably be dealt with in a case by case basis. --- Sorry for the excessive number of sources. This is still ongoing and very hard to explain, so I have no recourse. [1] https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-52353804 https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-52353804 [2] https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2020/04/19/bolsonaro-discursa-em-manifestacao-em-brasilia-que-defendeu-intervencao-militar.ghtml https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2020/04/19/bolsonaro-d... [3] https://media.gazetadopovo.com.br/2020/04/22162620/manifestacao-intervencao-brasilia-sergio-lima-afp-960x540.jpg https://media.gazetadopovo.com.br/2020/04/22162620/manifesta... / https://mediastorage.cnnbrasil.com.br/IMAGES/00/00/00/3368_745E8B537C8E0C3D.jpg https://mediastorage.cnnbrasil.com.br/IMAGES/00/00/00/3368_7... [4] https://conteudo.imguol.com.br/c/noticias/c0/2020/06/21/21062020---ato-de-apoiadores-de-bolsonaro-tem-pedidos-anticonstitucionais-de-intervencao-militar-1592766183921_v2_450x337.jpg https://conteudo.imguol.com.br/c/noticias/c0/2020/06/21/2106... [5] https://static.poder360.com.br/2020/06/Apoiadores-Bolsonaro-QG-Exercito-IntervencaoMilitar-Constituicao-comunismo-27-868x644.jpg https://static.poder360.com.br/2020/06/Apoiadores-Bolsonaro-... [6] https://static.poder360.com.br/2020/04/bolsonaro-AI-5.jpg https://static.poder360.com.br/2020/04/bolsonaro-AI-5.jpg [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_Act_Number_Five https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_Act_Number_Five [8] https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-53570792 https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-53570792 [9] https://economia.ig.com.br/2020-07-31/luciano-hang-da-havan-tem-conta-retida-no-twitter-pela-justica.html https://economia.ig.com.br/2020-07-31/luciano-hang-da-havan-...
- rbanffy 6y ago
  > - "AI-5 with Bolsonaro in power" [6]. Brazilian living abroad here. This one is particularly hilarious/concerning because they keep screaming "censorship" against the supreme court orders and censoring the press was one of the policies instituted by the AI-5 decree. I lived through the second half of the dictatorship. I'd rather lock up those who ask for one than see my country under one.

ratww 6y ago

> why are the presidents supporters calling for a coup Acts asking for a militar coup have been happening for the last few years among the radical right. Their demands are not clear enough, so most news reports are about them happening and events surrounded them, such as the president appearing in some of them. [1] [2] --- I'm not going to guess what they want, so let's just translate what their banners say. Hopefully I can be unbiased. - "Military intervention / Close the supreme court and congress / With Bolsonaro as president" [3] - "Military tribunal", "Criminalize Communism", among others I can't read [4]. - "Military intervention so that Bolsonaro can govern". In the back: "criminalize communism" [5]. - "AI-5 with Bolsonaro in power" [6]. The last one is about AI-5. AI-5, according to Wiki: "resulted in the forfeiture of mandates, interventions ordered by the President in municipalities and states and also in the suspension of any constitutional guarantees which eventually resulted in the institutionalization of the torture commonly used as a tool by the State." [7] The previous reference is in english. --- > And how does blocking a dozen accounts change anything, really? Would the people behind them not simply open more sockpuppet accounts? Some of them are under house arrest and forbidden from using social networks. [7] The others are stopped for different reasons, but according to a news website "there's still no information about the reasons". [8] If they open sock puppets, this will probably be dealt with in a case by case basis. --- Sorry for the excessive number of sources. This is still ongoing and very hard to explain, so I have no recourse. [1] https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-52353804 https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-52353804 [2] https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2020/04/19/bolsonaro-discursa-em-manifestacao-em-brasilia-que-defendeu-intervencao-militar.ghtml https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2020/04/19/bolsonaro-d... [3] https://media.gazetadopovo.com.br/2020/04/22162620/manifestacao-intervencao-brasilia-sergio-lima-afp-960x540.jpg https://media.gazetadopovo.com.br/2020/04/22162620/manifesta... / https://mediastorage.cnnbrasil.com.br/IMAGES/00/00/00/3368_745E8B537C8E0C3D.jpg https://mediastorage.cnnbrasil.com.br/IMAGES/00/00/00/3368_7... [4] https://conteudo.imguol.com.br/c/noticias/c0/2020/06/21/21062020---ato-de-apoiadores-de-bolsonaro-tem-pedidos-anticonstitucionais-de-intervencao-militar-1592766183921_v2_450x337.jpg https://conteudo.imguol.com.br/c/noticias/c0/2020/06/21/2106... [5] https://static.poder360.com.br/2020/06/Apoiadores-Bolsonaro-QG-Exercito-IntervencaoMilitar-Constituicao-comunismo-27-868x644.jpg https://static.poder360.com.br/2020/06/Apoiadores-Bolsonaro-... [6] https://static.poder360.com.br/2020/04/bolsonaro-AI-5.jpg https://static.poder360.com.br/2020/04/bolsonaro-AI-5.jpg [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_Act_Number_Five https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_Act_Number_Five [8] https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-53570792 https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-53570792 [9] https://economia.ig.com.br/2020-07-31/luciano-hang-da-havan-tem-conta-retida-no-twitter-pela-justica.html https://economia.ig.com.br/2020-07-31/luciano-hang-da-havan-...

rbanffy 6y ago
> - "AI-5 with Bolsonaro in power" [6]. Brazilian living abroad here. This one is particularly hilarious/concerning because they keep screaming "censorship" against the supreme court orders and censoring the press was one of the policies instituted by the AI-5 decree. I lived through the second half of the dictatorship. I'd rather lock up those who ask for one than see my country under one.