> There is also the fact that stakes are just plain lower, things like Zwift are mostly about fun, getting into shape, and competitions to the extent that compe

> There is also the fact that stakes are just plain lower, things like Zwift are mostly about fun, getting into shape, and competitions to the extent that competition helps some people with A & B. It's not like there are massive cash prizes and sponsorships and so forth on the line in the same way the pro sports has. There's have been at least 2 deaths related to use of Strava and probably many unreported near misses, all to have your name at the top of a list on a system you have to pay to use [1]. Cheating is widespread in any online game that has a decent audience, often for no discernable benefit. Humans are not rational, especially when it comes to competition. [1] https://www.velonews.com/news/road/family-sues-strava-over-descending-death/ https://www.velonews.com/news/road/family-sues-strava-over-d...