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You forgot to say that you have basically the same deaths/M as Italy, and these increased drastically in the last part of the outbreak, not in the early part. T

You forgot to say that you have basically the same deaths/M as Italy, and these increased drastically in the last part of the outbreak, not in the early part. The difference is that Italy was completely unprepared while you had all the information needed to mitigate the impact, as your Nordic neighbours did very well.

pastrami_panda 6y ago
I did adress it though, but I formatted the post poorly since it was very late. I did acknowledge that in the beginning the authority in charge of elderly homes messed up, badly. But it's unfortunate that this fuck up drags the whole strategy into the ground. I'm very confident that had we simply enforced stricter care in the elderly homes that huge chunk of people would've not died in the beginning and fractions would speak a whole nother story. The strategy is working, unfortunately the media doesn't want it to work. As the other guy said in this thread add up the estimate for T-cell immunity and we're likely approaching 50% immunity. But sure, all those people in elderly homes got the short end of the stick in the beginning. But please be level headed and don't judge the whole strategy on that.
- tigershark 6y ago
  No, it’s not true that the early part of the pandemic caused the majority of the deaths. All the deaths after the peak are more than all the deaths before the peak, so you can’t say that the huge amount of deaths have been caused early on by the authority in charge of the elderly homes.
  - pastrami_panda 6y ago
    There's a huge delay, someone doesn't contract corona and just die. Especially not in a country with good medical care. It's hard to say for sure, if you compare 2019 there were 10.000 elderly who died in elderly homes. This year it was 11.000. I'm not sure how the data was prior to that, but regardless a couple of thousand cases is a lot when the total is 5800.
    - tigershark 6y ago
      Deaths percentage in Finland and Norway for the elderly homes was higher than in Sweden as far as I remember. But they have an abysmal number of deaths/M compared to Sweden. So the elderly homes deaths can’t be an important contributing factor in the Swedish total deaths number.
      - perl4ever 6y ago
        >abysmal number of deaths/M compared to Sweden Are you referring to a relatively low death rate as "abysmal"? This might make sense from a certain perspective but it's confusing in English.

pastrami_panda 6y ago

I did adress it though, but I formatted the post poorly since it was very late. I did acknowledge that in the beginning the authority in charge of elderly homes messed up, badly. But it's unfortunate that this fuck up drags the whole strategy into the ground. I'm very confident that had we simply enforced stricter care in the elderly homes that huge chunk of people would've not died in the beginning and fractions would speak a whole nother story. The strategy is working, unfortunately the media doesn't want it to work. As the other guy said in this thread add up the estimate for T-cell immunity and we're likely approaching 50% immunity. But sure, all those people in elderly homes got the short end of the stick in the beginning. But please be level headed and don't judge the whole strategy on that.

tigershark 6y ago
No, it’s not true that the early part of the pandemic caused the majority of the deaths. All the deaths after the peak are more than all the deaths before the peak, so you can’t say that the huge amount of deaths have been caused early on by the authority in charge of the elderly homes.
- pastrami_panda 6y ago
  There's a huge delay, someone doesn't contract corona and just die. Especially not in a country with good medical care. It's hard to say for sure, if you compare 2019 there were 10.000 elderly who died in elderly homes. This year it was 11.000. I'm not sure how the data was prior to that, but regardless a couple of thousand cases is a lot when the total is 5800.
  - tigershark 6y ago
    Deaths percentage in Finland and Norway for the elderly homes was higher than in Sweden as far as I remember. But they have an abysmal number of deaths/M compared to Sweden. So the elderly homes deaths can’t be an important contributing factor in the Swedish total deaths number.
    - perl4ever 6y ago
      >abysmal number of deaths/M compared to Sweden Are you referring to a relatively low death rate as "abysmal"? This might make sense from a certain perspective but it's confusing in English.