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I'm not arguing for that. Of course there are genetic differences that will make some people better at some things. But to say that half the population bus not

I'm not arguing for that. Of course there are genetic differences that will make some people better at some things. But to say that half the population bus not capable of programming? That is elitist nonsense. Especially given the breath of the field.

nonidit 6y ago
It is not. On the contrast I'd say thinking that more than ~10% of the population is in principle able to program is based on an elitist filter bubble. Abstract thinking is really not that easy. Just try to go to a shopping mall and teach people simple math or programming concepts.
- enchiridion 6y ago
  Have you actually done the experiment you propose? It sounds like a fun challenge honestly. I have taught at least a dozen people to code. A good number had no idea what was going on for a while, but left knowing how to handle the basics. Coding, math, and related subjects are made harder than needed by focusing on the abstract too much. Most of the concepts taught in a typical computer science degree are not difficult once you strip away the terminology. I'm also not sure how you see these opinions stemming from an elitist filter bubble. I know what I know because of how I've been educated. Anyone who put in the same amount of work (within a reasonable margin) would know the same things.
Consultant32452 6y ago
>That is elitist nonsense. You appear to have hallucinated a version of what I've said and are arguing against that.
- enchiridion 6y ago
  Maybe? It seems like saying at least half of the population is not capable of your job is elitist. I could be misunderstanding something about what you're saying.
  - Consultant32452 6y ago
    There are many jobs for which most people are not psychologically compatible. Off the top of my head, here's a few: long haul trucking, EMT, police officer, public school teacher... Is that elitist?

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I'm not arguing for that. Of course there are genetic differences that will make some people better at some things. But to say that half the population bus not

by enchiridion 6y ago

nonidit 6y ago
It is not. On the contrast I'd say thinking that more than ~10% of the population is in principle able to program is based on an elitist filter bubble. Abstract thinking is really not that easy. Just try to go to a shopping mall and teach people simple math or programming concepts.
- enchiridion 6y ago
  Have you actually done the experiment you propose? It sounds like a fun challenge honestly. I have taught at least a dozen people to code. A good number had no idea what was going on for a while, but left knowing how to handle the basics. Coding, math, and related subjects are made harder than needed by focusing on the abstract too much. Most of the concepts taught in a typical computer science degree are not difficult once you strip away the terminology. I'm also not sure how you see these opinions stemming from an elitist filter bubble. I know what I know because of how I've been educated. Anyone who put in the same amount of work (within a reasonable margin) would know the same things.
Consultant32452 6y ago
>That is elitist nonsense. You appear to have hallucinated a version of what I've said and are arguing against that.
- enchiridion 6y ago
  Maybe? It seems like saying at least half of the population is not capable of your job is elitist. I could be misunderstanding something about what you're saying.
  - Consultant32452 6y ago
    There are many jobs for which most people are not psychologically compatible. Off the top of my head, here's a few: long haul trucking, EMT, police officer, public school teacher... Is that elitist?