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Cartoons are already illegal and how the hell are you going to defend this in court? Just because its completely "innocent" and absolutely zero child are harmed

Cartoons are already illegal and how the hell are you going to defend this in court? Just because its completely "innocent" and absolutely zero child are harmed, its still illegal.

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gruez 6y ago
>Cartoons are already illegal depends on the jurisdiction. at least in the us they're not illegal per se. > U.S. law distinguishes between pornographic images of an actual minor, realistic images that are not of an actual minor, and non-realistic images such as drawings. The latter two categories are legally protected unless found to be obscene, whereas the first does not require a finding of obscenity.
- 236dev 6y ago
  I had to see for my social media website (similar to tumblr) (tiblar.com) if it was legal or not. At least in Delaware lolicon/shotacon and cartoon child porn is illegal. It varies on which state it is, some states it is legal, others it is not. Federally it is legal.
  - manfredo 6y ago
    The Supreme Court has repeatedly struck down state laws banning fake child porn. Since the 2010s a few people have been convicted for it, but only alongside convictions of real images. They probably saw no point in appealing if the other charges would stick. States have obscenity laws that restrict sale and advertisement of this content, but possession cannot be banned by obscenity laws. Think about the mess that would be enforcing this law. You can't objectively determine the age of a fake character, unlike a real person.
    - somebodythere 6y ago
      > Think about the mess that would be enforcing this law. You can't objectively determine the age of a fake character, unlike a real person. It is certainly a mess, but that doesn't stop jurisdictions outside the United States from prosecuting it.
      - manfredo 6y ago
        The parent commenter seemed to be referring to the US, given that they referred to Delaware (a US State).
        somebodythere 6y ago
        I know; they were saying that this law wouldn't be enforced in a U.S. state because it's a mess to do so. That's not a strong argument because there is evidence of such laws being enforced despite the difficulty in assigning ages to a fictional character.
    - buisi 6y ago
      Child porn carries very steep mandatory minimums. It is common for defendants to settle for a plea deal under the minimum.

Cartoons are already illegal and how the hell are you going to defend this in court? Just because its completely "innocent" and absolutely zero child are harmed, its still illegal.

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gruez 6y ago

>Cartoons are already illegal depends on the jurisdiction. at least in the us they're not illegal per se. > U.S. law distinguishes between pornographic images of an actual minor, realistic images that are not of an actual minor, and non-realistic images such as drawings. The latter two categories are legally protected unless found to be obscene, whereas the first does not require a finding of obscenity.

236dev 6y ago
I had to see for my social media website (similar to tumblr) (tiblar.com) if it was legal or not. At least in Delaware lolicon/shotacon and cartoon child porn is illegal. It varies on which state it is, some states it is legal, others it is not. Federally it is legal.
- manfredo 6y ago
  The Supreme Court has repeatedly struck down state laws banning fake child porn. Since the 2010s a few people have been convicted for it, but only alongside convictions of real images. They probably saw no point in appealing if the other charges would stick. States have obscenity laws that restrict sale and advertisement of this content, but possession cannot be banned by obscenity laws. Think about the mess that would be enforcing this law. You can't objectively determine the age of a fake character, unlike a real person.
  - somebodythere 6y ago
    > Think about the mess that would be enforcing this law. You can't objectively determine the age of a fake character, unlike a real person. It is certainly a mess, but that doesn't stop jurisdictions outside the United States from prosecuting it.
    - manfredo 6y ago
      The parent commenter seemed to be referring to the US, given that they referred to Delaware (a US State).
      - somebodythere 6y ago
        I know; they were saying that this law wouldn't be enforced in a U.S. state because it's a mess to do so. That's not a strong argument because there is evidence of such laws being enforced despite the difficulty in assigning ages to a fictional character.
  - buisi 6y ago
    Child porn carries very steep mandatory minimums. It is common for defendants to settle for a plea deal under the minimum.