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> Oh, and by the way, we want you to rush your testing so you don't have the normal time to verify its safety! This! The public are acutely aware of the predic

by jarym 6y ago

> Oh, and by the way, we want you to rush your testing so you don't have the normal time to verify its safety! This! The public are acutely aware of the predicament that governments have created and most will be very skeptical of a vaccine that's been rushed through like this especially if a regulator says 'sure its totally safe' when we can all see the data to determine that cannot possibly exist in the near future.

ponker 6y ago
Depends on the relative risks. I can imagine an 80 year old in a US nursing home jumping on the barely tested vaccine while a 23-year-old New Zealander waits for more information.
WalterBright 6y ago
I'm in an elevated risk group, and I'd like the right to decide for myself if taking the vaccine is worth the risk.
- Vinnl 6y ago
  The problem is that others will have to take the vaccine as well. Not to protect themselves, but to protect others. It would be nice if they could do that without (fear of) risking their personal safety.
throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
> The public are acutely aware of the predicament that governments have created What predicament? The gov't didn't create covid. > especially if a regulator says 'sure its totally safe' To my knowledge (and I did work in this area) no regulator will ever declare a drug 'totally safe'. > most will be very skeptical of a vaccine that's been rushed through like this Yeah well, you're speaking for a rather large population whose minds you don't know so please don't. Also covid is dangerous so people may be skeptical but still take it.
raverbashing 6y ago
Every vaccine/drug can have potential side effects, possibly in the 1 case to millions of doses. There's no such thing as a non-side-effect product. However today there are ready armies of lawyers to sue for those very rare side effects that have a much lower fatality rate than the disease itself. Are pharmaceutical companies the pinnacle of honesty and ethics? Of course not. Would it be worthy pulling a covid vaccine out of shelves if it caused a 1 in 1Mi serious side effect? No way. Sure, you can try to identify and quantify the risk so maybe don't give this vaccine to people who might have a worse outcome, still, nothing is perfect.

by jarym 6y ago

ponker 6y ago

Depends on the relative risks. I can imagine an 80 year old in a US nursing home jumping on the barely tested vaccine while a 23-year-old New Zealander waits for more information.

WalterBright 6y ago

I'm in an elevated risk group, and I'd like the right to decide for myself if taking the vaccine is worth the risk.

Vinnl 6y ago
The problem is that others will have to take the vaccine as well. Not to protect themselves, but to protect others. It would be nice if they could do that without (fear of) risking their personal safety.

throwaway_pdp09 6y ago

> The public are acutely aware of the predicament that governments have created What predicament? The gov't didn't create covid. > especially if a regulator says 'sure its totally safe' To my knowledge (and I did work in this area) no regulator will ever declare a drug 'totally safe'. > most will be very skeptical of a vaccine that's been rushed through like this Yeah well, you're speaking for a rather large population whose minds you don't know so please don't. Also covid is dangerous so people may be skeptical but still take it.

raverbashing 6y ago

Every vaccine/drug can have potential side effects, possibly in the 1 case to millions of doses. There's no such thing as a non-side-effect product. However today there are ready armies of lawyers to sue for those very rare side effects that have a much lower fatality rate than the disease itself. Are pharmaceutical companies the pinnacle of honesty and ethics? Of course not. Would it be worthy pulling a covid vaccine out of shelves if it caused a 1 in 1Mi serious side effect? No way. Sure, you can try to identify and quantify the risk so maybe don't give this vaccine to people who might have a worse outcome, still, nothing is perfect.