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I'm going to engage in concern trolling about the name to preemptively beat everyone else. Let's all bike-shed about how bad the name is and how we'll never us

I'm going to engage in concern trolling about the name to preemptively beat everyone else. Let's all bike-shed about how bad the name is and how we'll never use it in our giant production data vacuums to mercilessly exploit the commons for money and prestige. Here's a pointless mention of CockroachDB and an observation that GNU Recutils has a logo of two turtles engaging in sex. Something something GIMP. Here's twenty overly emotional pleas for why we should eradicate any memory that the Internet used to be used by and for amateurs, without consideration of what Fortune 500 companies and crisis PR firms might think about it. Really bad look. Period. It's 2020, etc.

seibelj 6y ago
But what about Rust??
- froasty 6y ago
  I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Rust, is in fact, Iron/Oxygen, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Iron plus Oxygen.
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formerly_proven 6y ago
MongoDB
runawaybottle 6y ago
You’ve entered peak meta.
smt88 6y ago
If you want to defend the name, defend it. Openly creating a straw man for you to dunk on is not interesting or substantive. Lots of us want to get children and relatives onto apps we enjoy, and a silly name can make that harder. On the flip side, what does this project get from names like "QHandjoob"? It's a joke that a typical 12 year old might have grown out of, and it's only a joke the first time. After that it's just a stupid name I'm embarrassed for anyone to see over my shoulder. I'm not offended, and I doubt anyone is (despite your prediction). I just don't see the point.
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- dvt 6y ago
  > I'm not offended, and I doubt anyone is (despite your prediction). I just don't see the point. Well, unfortunately, you'd be wrong: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=907199 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=907199 I feel that this is going to turn into my daily HN post in defense of free speech. There's nothing that the name adds, it's stupid, it's silly, and it's juvenile. The authors themselves, in fact, seem to be racist shitbags[1]. But Debian essentially deplatforming it is absolutely not the right move here. I think protecting speech is a hill worth dying on, and even a despicable Neo-Nazi should have the same right to speech as me or you. [1] https://github.com/laurentb/weboob/blob/0ac4885ad8c2127465840271676c911afd15918a/weboob/backends/aum/pages/search.py https://github.com/laurentb/weboob/blob/0ac4885ad8c212746584...
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  - hydragit 6y ago
    You seem to be pointing at a specific revision and the file doesn't seem to exist anymore in the current version of the repository. I confess I didn't check more than this though.
    - jgwil2 6y ago
      Does that really make it any better? It's in the commit history and now it's there for all of us to see. Why on earth anybody would write something like that is beyond me, but doing it in public is mind-bogglingly fucked up and stupid.
      - s9w 6y ago
        It's also legal, at least in some countries
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nabla9 6y ago
Weboob has applications like QFlatBoob, QHandjoob. I love the idea of picking names that make people squirm if used in corporate setting.
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happytoexplain 6y ago
This is an impressively detailed strawman. I would agree with your point, though not your format, if we were only looking at the name "weboob", but you seem to be willfully ignoring the rest of the discussion.

seibelj 6y ago

But what about Rust??

froasty 6y ago
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Rust, is in fact, Iron/Oxygen, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Iron plus Oxygen.
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formerly_proven 6y ago

MongoDB

runawaybottle 6y ago

You’ve entered peak meta.

smt88 6y ago

If you want to defend the name, defend it. Openly creating a straw man for you to dunk on is not interesting or substantive. Lots of us want to get children and relatives onto apps we enjoy, and a silly name can make that harder. On the flip side, what does this project get from names like "QHandjoob"? It's a joke that a typical 12 year old might have grown out of, and it's only a joke the first time. After that it's just a stupid name I'm embarrassed for anyone to see over my shoulder. I'm not offended, and I doubt anyone is (despite your prediction). I just don't see the point.

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dvt 6y ago
> I'm not offended, and I doubt anyone is (despite your prediction). I just don't see the point. Well, unfortunately, you'd be wrong: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=907199 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=907199 I feel that this is going to turn into my daily HN post in defense of free speech. There's nothing that the name adds, it's stupid, it's silly, and it's juvenile. The authors themselves, in fact, seem to be racist shitbags[1]. But Debian essentially deplatforming it is absolutely not the right move here. I think protecting speech is a hill worth dying on, and even a despicable Neo-Nazi should have the same right to speech as me or you. [1] https://github.com/laurentb/weboob/blob/0ac4885ad8c2127465840271676c911afd15918a/weboob/backends/aum/pages/search.py https://github.com/laurentb/weboob/blob/0ac4885ad8c212746584...
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- hydragit 6y ago
  You seem to be pointing at a specific revision and the file doesn't seem to exist anymore in the current version of the repository. I confess I didn't check more than this though.
  - jgwil2 6y ago
    Does that really make it any better? It's in the commit history and now it's there for all of us to see. Why on earth anybody would write something like that is beyond me, but doing it in public is mind-bogglingly fucked up and stupid.
    - s9w 6y ago
      It's also legal, at least in some countries
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nabla9 6y ago

Weboob has applications like QFlatBoob, QHandjoob. I love the idea of picking names that make people squirm if used in corporate setting.

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happytoexplain 6y ago

This is an impressively detailed strawman. I would agree with your point, though not your format, if we were only looking at the name "weboob", but you seem to be willfully ignoring the rest of the discussion.