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Windows 8 Welcome Screen And Windows Explorer Screenshots Leaked

68 points by dkd903 16y ago

thirdsun 16y ago
I hope this isn't even close to the final design. With their Metro UI on Windows Mobile 7 they took a big step into the right direction - an all-flat, simple, clean interface that got rid of all those shiny, glossy elements. Why wouldn't you stick to that approach when it comes to your flagship product? Especially given the fact that Windows Mobile 7, despite lacking in certain features, received a lot of praise for their original and well executed UI philosophy. Additionally this is a chance to unify the interfaces of the desktop and the mobile OS. Some may say that this interface doesn't work on the desktop, but have you seen the Zune software? It looks clean, original, simple, yet very modern and substantial. That piece of software should have been the template for the whole operating system.
start123 16y ago
Here is the original post with more Pictures http://www.withinwindows.com http://www.withinwindows.com
sliverstorm 16y ago
I wonder if they'll continue the pattern they've set so far- Win95 => Win98SE : Win2000 => WinXP : WinVista => Win7 The OS changes on a more fundamental level every other release. (At least, this is how I see it) So does that imply Win8 is likely going to be another 'rewrite' (not that they necessarily start from scratch)? P.S. Yes, I am ignoring WinME.
- jmathes 16y ago
  You're also ignoring WinNT, which became Win2k, which became WinXP. The real story is more complicated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT
- code_duck 16y ago
  That's what they've done with NT for the past 4 releases, yes. 2000 was the first NT5, XP was the second. Vista was the first NT 6, Windows '7' was the second. The actual version numbers of Windows, unlike the marketing names, reflect this release style.
  - judofyr 16y ago
    Actually, the reason WinXP is 5.1 (instead of 6) and Win7 is 6.1 (instead of 7) is for "maximizing application compatibility": http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/archive/b/windowsvista/archive/2008/10/14/why-7.aspx http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/archive/b/windowsvista/ar...
    - Joeri 16y ago
      Ah, but they care about maximizing application compatibility more for some versions than others. Will microsoft care as much about app compatibility for windows 8 as they did for windows 7?
      - code_duck 16y ago
        They sure don't care about IE 9 being compatible with XP. Breaking third party software and hardware is more of a pain, though, as Vista proved. That was most of the problems they had with Vista, but I guess they are over that hump at this point.
  - contextfree 16y ago
    Windows 8 is 6.2. But I doubt it has any relation to the content.
    - code_duck 16y ago
      Why would it not?
- frogly 16y ago
  Yes, I think you're right. Remember that Windows 8 will run on ARM, which means major rewriting will be involved.
lordlarm 16y ago
Difficult to say if this is a April-fools joke, but if not, here is my thoughts. I hope Microsoft does not apply the ribbon UI to all their future programs as it takes a lot of pixles and makes the menu messy and complex. The minimalistic side of me would hope for more shortcuts and _one_ place where you did settings/preferences for a program. I believe Mac OSX has done this very good with their system preferences panel and globally accessible cmd+',' shortcut in order to get to the preferences of current program. And what is up with that background picture?
- timerickson 16y ago
  I will agree with you that OS X Preference windows are easy to natigate and often have very apt UX for various types of preferences. However, the menubar system (File, Edit, View, etc) as it currently stands is in much need of improvement. How many times have you hunted for an action/preference in the menubars to no avail? It's rows and rows of text with no visual feedback for various types of actions. The only improvement of late has been the addition of a live "search and hunt" (by that I mean, type in a search keyword and it will hunt it out of the menu and point to it).
  - lordlarm 16y ago
    Yes, I agree with you on the 'file, edit, view, window' etc. This need some rethinking and redesigning, but I'm not sure these huge ribbons is the right way. Hence my example to Mac OSX cmd+',' : if I want to edit some preferences in my program I know where to do it. In windows the preferences can be both under 'file', 'view' or 'window' for that matter. This is only an example, but the Windows-line has proven to have almost non-existing 'rules' for how to layout preferences and this affect mainly the non-technical user.
  - cubicle67 16y ago
    How many times have you hunted for an action/preference in the menubars to no avail? not sure which OS you're talking about, but in OSX all menus are searchable via the help menu (top entry in help menu is a search field. type here and it will highlight matching menu items in any menu) [Edit: this video shows what I 'm talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOoOvIqiWe0&feature=player_detailpage#t=25s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOoOvIqiWe0&feature=playe...]
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iuguy 16y ago
Quick question - what are the killer features that you would want to see in Windows 8? I can't think of any. While Windows XP was getting a bit old (in terms of age) it did pretty much everything you'd want from an Operating System and some security weaknesses aside (which as someone working in that field matter to me, but may not to others) I struggle to find what, other than shininess and less reboots on major changes Windows 7 brings to the table. Likewise, Windows 7 is so 'good enough' I can't imagine what features would possibly make me want to upgrade. Anyone got any ideas?
- TillE 16y ago
  Exposé. Virtual desktops. A massive overhaul of Windows Update that turns it into part app store, part package manager. I want a Debian-like system where it's easy to add my own sources, and everything on the system is updated with one service.
  - loire280 16y ago
    It's funny how difficult window management is in an operating system named Windows. The only useful addition to window management since XP is the addition of easy vertical maximization. The lack of virtual desktops is especially unfortunate in Windows because the taskbar gets cluttered so quickly.
    - james2vegas 16y ago
      The lack of virtual desktops in Windows is especially unfortunate since at least Windows 3.51 (but perhaps Windows NT 3.1) the support for multiple desktops (and multiple interactive login sessions) has been part of the operating system, but not properly exposed to users.
  - code_duck 16y ago
    So, you are anticipating features that have been in other operating systems for years?
    - 16y ago
lovskogen 16y ago
I think Microsoft will move Windows towards Metro, as Apple moves OS X towards iOS. Which is good, since both Metro and iOS are both less tech, and more human.
kbd 16y ago
Can anyone else not stand the ribbon UI? It drives me nuts. If ribbon UIs are going to be even more pervasive in Windows, I'm even more glad I switched to Mac.
- aantthony 16y ago
  The ribbon UI to me is like those websites where you have to hunt for a link. I can't stand it either.
timparker 16y ago
What a mess, so much clutter still going on. Doesn't look like a very pleasant or easy UI to use.
mhiceoin 16y ago
Just not buying that this real. Why would they reuse Windows 7 wallpaper, and return to NT style login. It is a repost from: http://www.withinwindows.com/ http://www.withinwindows.com/ looks like they enjoyed the traffic too much to let it go, as a follow up reveals more detail: http://www.withinwindows.com/2011/04/02/windows-8-secrets-windows-explorer-ribbon/ http://www.withinwindows.com/2011/04/02/windows-8-secrets-wi...
- skymt 16y ago
  If these are real, they're screenshots of an early internal build. It'll be a while before they start adding the final artwork.
- deleted 16y ago
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- jackvalentine 16y ago
  Are you referring to "press ctrl-alt-del to login" as NT style login? This style is still in Windows 7 if you set your network up like that.
  - encoderer 16y ago
    Sorry, didn't mean to hit "down" arrow, meant to mod-up :) You're entirely right, that's a domain-policy option. It's a security feature to require a Ctrl+Alt+Del before showing a password box.
raganwald 16y ago
Well, I'm sure eventually there will be something to chew on. But for now... Reading about the ribbon feels like reading that the next Cadillac will have chromed tail fins again. Intensely interesting if you're thinking about buying one, but not particularly actionable. Which is an interesting counter-point to the Windows of so many years ago: The entire industry worked on a calendar dominated by Windows releases. Apps would be upgraded on that schedule. PC purchases would spike on that schedule. Hordes of apps would become extinct overnight as Microsoft built their features into new releases of Windows. But now? As a developer, what does a new release of Windows mean to me? What does a new release of Windows mean to startups? Come to think of it, what does a new release of Windows mean to Microsoft? Can Microsoft count on taxing their existing customer base in the form of upgrade revenues? Specifically, incremental upgrade revenues (people upgrading to Windows 8 that wouldn't upgraded to Windows)? Obviously the thing will sell to OEMs and so on, and Microsoft will claim huge wins from corporate customers upgrading, but are we going to see another bit of sales jiggery-pokery where most of the revenue would be money Microsoft would have made anyways?
- blazer 16y ago
  What we expect from MS in Windows 8: #1. Price: Make it something around $50 to $100 #2. Seriously nobody cares Home basic, Home premium editions. Just discontinue these kind of editions. #2.1 Make it sharp Windows 8 lite ($30), Windows 8 Pro($50), Windows 8 Ultimate($100) #3. Try to have "Software Installer". Ubuntu has a perfect one. That would be great, If we have 100s of latest setup files packed with installation media (Skype, Pidgin, Firefox, MS Office, Putty, Apache, PHP, Python, Flash Player, Adobe Reader, Filezilla, Dropbox) #4. We need a stable firewall in windows. Try to buy companies like "Outpost" and please improve your WIndows one care. (If it still exists) #5. Spywares, Keyloggers, Viruses, Trojans .. We are installing almost 2-3 tools to protect us from these.. Please invest some money to make a stable "Security Software" #6. Please make IE9 avail in cross platform. If ActiveX is the only problem.. Then do it cross platform first. #7. Respect Opensource packages. #8. Password protected directories... #9. Support MORE local languages (See any linux distro) ...
rtaycher 16y ago
Ribbon on explorer is a bit weird but better then then win7 no menu, weird context sensitive button bar.
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Qz 16y ago
That ribbon is taking up way too much space considering 80% of it is disabled.
- estel 16y ago
  Considering how massively pre-alpha the software undoubtedly is, I'm not about to leap to conclusions.
swah 16y ago
That's a huge menu! Respect!
elvirs 16y ago
I would love to be able to have full customization of folders and navigation structure on my windows pc. things like 'games' 'searches' 'links' etc. that nobody (I've not seen one) uses annoy appearing in start menu and all other places eating up screen realestate and making it harder to use. And actually its really hard to get rid of them if not possible. You keep deleting them from various dialog boxes and they some of them keep coming back making it feel like you trying to kill a zombie that keeps coming back with one organ less each time.
jackvalentine 16y ago
Some kind of incentive program to stop OEMs loading new PCs up with crapware. Most importantly, Microsoft Security Essentials installed by default thus removing the need for Norton/Mcafee/whatever. Sure they might get a bit of "anti-trust" flak for it, but it would be worth it to the end user. I do student laptop support for a university at the moment, while I won't be doing it by the time Windows 8 comes out it'd be nice to think my sucessor on the job doesn't have to wade through tonnes of default installed junk to connect to the university wireless.
sagarun 16y ago
The screen shows "Friday April 1", April fools?
callumjones 16y ago
Where do Microsoft hire their designers from? How can one of the richest companies in the world not be able to hire crack designers to actually produce something more than a glossy tacky UI. Or is Microsoft so engineer/developer focused that they let the engineers design the interfaces that normal every-day people will use. And if Windows 8 is supposed to be the touch friendly OS from the ground up, why are they still relying on Ctrl + Alt + Del and implementing that god awful Ribbon UI across the board?
- xentronium 16y ago
  > why are they still relying on Ctrl + Alt + Del I bet it's gonna be optional. > and implementing that god awful Ribbon UI across the board? Well, that's for consistency, although I am not entirely sure it's a good move, time will show.
- jganetsk 16y ago
  > why are they still relying on Ctrl + Alt + Del That's a security measure. No application can hook into Ctrl + Alt + Del... the OS always handles it. This way, a malicious application can't phish you with a fake login screen. If they were to pick another key combination to reserve for the OS, they would break backward compatibility.
makecheck 16y ago
Lousy use of space is something that turned me away from Windows from the start, and they are still wasting space. Worse though, it is harder to find alternatives that don't; even Mac OS X these days has more and more iTuneseque apps that fill a huge display without adding much. I think I was happiest with Window Maker on Linux or Solaris.
51Cards 16y ago
"The Windows explorer has also got a lot of new stuffs - mainly the inclusion of ribbons. Ribbons was first introduced in Microsoft Office 2007 and in Windows 7, it was used in other applications such as Paint, WordPad etc. The Ribbons UI makes it possible for users to notice features much more easily than the old menu based system. No doubt some people will complain about the change. However, I believe that the Ribbon UI is quite a good and refreshing replacement for the old menu based system." So to summarize: IE9: "We have the cleanest UI out there, more space for content, less UI! Streamline!" Windows Ribbons: "Show it all to the user! Less space for content, more UI, expose every option all the time!" And we wonder why Microsoft is conflicted. (yes I will admit to being a 'Ribbon Hater')
- iaskwhy 16y ago
  You know you can just double click on a tab of the ribbon and it will hide, right? I'm a sort of ribbon lover by the way! :)

68 points by dkd903 16y ago

I hope this isn't even close to the final design. With their Metro UI on Windows Mobile 7 they took a big step into the right direction - an all-flat, simple, clean interface that got rid of all those shiny, glossy elements. Why wouldn't you stick to that approach when it comes to your flagship product? Especially given the fact that Windows Mobile 7, despite lacking in certain features, received a lot of praise for their original and well executed UI philosophy. Additionally this is a chance to unify the interfaces of the desktop and the mobile OS. Some may say that this interface doesn't work on the desktop, but have you seen the Zune software? It looks clean, original, simple, yet very modern and substantial. That piece of software should have been the template for the whole operating system.

start123 16y ago

Here is the original post with more Pictures http://www.withinwindows.com http://www.withinwindows.com

sliverstorm 16y ago

I wonder if they'll continue the pattern they've set so far- Win95 => Win98SE : Win2000 => WinXP : WinVista => Win7 The OS changes on a more fundamental level every other release. (At least, this is how I see it) So does that imply Win8 is likely going to be another 'rewrite' (not that they necessarily start from scratch)? P.S. Yes, I am ignoring WinME.

jmathes 16y ago
You're also ignoring WinNT, which became Win2k, which became WinXP. The real story is more complicated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT
code_duck 16y ago
That's what they've done with NT for the past 4 releases, yes. 2000 was the first NT5, XP was the second. Vista was the first NT 6, Windows '7' was the second. The actual version numbers of Windows, unlike the marketing names, reflect this release style.
- judofyr 16y ago
  Actually, the reason WinXP is 5.1 (instead of 6) and Win7 is 6.1 (instead of 7) is for "maximizing application compatibility": http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/archive/b/windowsvista/archive/2008/10/14/why-7.aspx http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/archive/b/windowsvista/ar...
  - Joeri 16y ago
    Ah, but they care about maximizing application compatibility more for some versions than others. Will microsoft care as much about app compatibility for windows 8 as they did for windows 7?
    - code_duck 16y ago
      They sure don't care about IE 9 being compatible with XP. Breaking third party software and hardware is more of a pain, though, as Vista proved. That was most of the problems they had with Vista, but I guess they are over that hump at this point.
- contextfree 16y ago
  Windows 8 is 6.2. But I doubt it has any relation to the content.
  - code_duck 16y ago
    Why would it not?
frogly 16y ago
Yes, I think you're right. Remember that Windows 8 will run on ARM, which means major rewriting will be involved.

lordlarm 16y ago

Difficult to say if this is a April-fools joke, but if not, here is my thoughts. I hope Microsoft does not apply the ribbon UI to all their future programs as it takes a lot of pixles and makes the menu messy and complex. The minimalistic side of me would hope for more shortcuts and _one_ place where you did settings/preferences for a program. I believe Mac OSX has done this very good with their system preferences panel and globally accessible cmd+',' shortcut in order to get to the preferences of current program. And what is up with that background picture?

timerickson 16y ago
I will agree with you that OS X Preference windows are easy to natigate and often have very apt UX for various types of preferences. However, the menubar system (File, Edit, View, etc) as it currently stands is in much need of improvement. How many times have you hunted for an action/preference in the menubars to no avail? It's rows and rows of text with no visual feedback for various types of actions. The only improvement of late has been the addition of a live "search and hunt" (by that I mean, type in a search keyword and it will hunt it out of the menu and point to it).
- lordlarm 16y ago
  Yes, I agree with you on the 'file, edit, view, window' etc. This need some rethinking and redesigning, but I'm not sure these huge ribbons is the right way. Hence my example to Mac OSX cmd+',' : if I want to edit some preferences in my program I know where to do it. In windows the preferences can be both under 'file', 'view' or 'window' for that matter. This is only an example, but the Windows-line has proven to have almost non-existing 'rules' for how to layout preferences and this affect mainly the non-technical user.
- cubicle67 16y ago
  How many times have you hunted for an action/preference in the menubars to no avail? not sure which OS you're talking about, but in OSX all menus are searchable via the help menu (top entry in help menu is a search field. type here and it will highlight matching menu items in any menu) [Edit: this video shows what I 'm talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOoOvIqiWe0&feature=player_detailpage#t=25s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOoOvIqiWe0&feature=playe...]

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iuguy 16y ago

Quick question - what are the killer features that you would want to see in Windows 8? I can't think of any. While Windows XP was getting a bit old (in terms of age) it did pretty much everything you'd want from an Operating System and some security weaknesses aside (which as someone working in that field matter to me, but may not to others) I struggle to find what, other than shininess and less reboots on major changes Windows 7 brings to the table. Likewise, Windows 7 is so 'good enough' I can't imagine what features would possibly make me want to upgrade. Anyone got any ideas?

TillE 16y ago
Exposé. Virtual desktops. A massive overhaul of Windows Update that turns it into part app store, part package manager. I want a Debian-like system where it's easy to add my own sources, and everything on the system is updated with one service.
- loire280 16y ago
  It's funny how difficult window management is in an operating system named Windows. The only useful addition to window management since XP is the addition of easy vertical maximization. The lack of virtual desktops is especially unfortunate in Windows because the taskbar gets cluttered so quickly.
  - james2vegas 16y ago
    The lack of virtual desktops in Windows is especially unfortunate since at least Windows 3.51 (but perhaps Windows NT 3.1) the support for multiple desktops (and multiple interactive login sessions) has been part of the operating system, but not properly exposed to users.
- code_duck 16y ago
  So, you are anticipating features that have been in other operating systems for years?
  - 16y ago

lovskogen 16y ago

I think Microsoft will move Windows towards Metro, as Apple moves OS X towards iOS. Which is good, since both Metro and iOS are both less tech, and more human.

kbd 16y ago

Can anyone else not stand the ribbon UI? It drives me nuts. If ribbon UIs are going to be even more pervasive in Windows, I'm even more glad I switched to Mac.

aantthony 16y ago
The ribbon UI to me is like those websites where you have to hunt for a link. I can't stand it either.

timparker 16y ago

What a mess, so much clutter still going on. Doesn't look like a very pleasant or easy UI to use.

mhiceoin 16y ago

Just not buying that this real. Why would they reuse Windows 7 wallpaper, and return to NT style login. It is a repost from: http://www.withinwindows.com/ http://www.withinwindows.com/ looks like they enjoyed the traffic too much to let it go, as a follow up reveals more detail: http://www.withinwindows.com/2011/04/02/windows-8-secrets-windows-explorer-ribbon/ http://www.withinwindows.com/2011/04/02/windows-8-secrets-wi...

skymt 16y ago
If these are real, they're screenshots of an early internal build. It'll be a while before they start adding the final artwork.
deleted 16y ago
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jackvalentine 16y ago
Are you referring to "press ctrl-alt-del to login" as NT style login? This style is still in Windows 7 if you set your network up like that.
- encoderer 16y ago
  Sorry, didn't mean to hit "down" arrow, meant to mod-up :) You're entirely right, that's a domain-policy option. It's a security feature to require a Ctrl+Alt+Del before showing a password box.

raganwald 16y ago

Well, I'm sure eventually there will be something to chew on. But for now... Reading about the ribbon feels like reading that the next Cadillac will have chromed tail fins again. Intensely interesting if you're thinking about buying one, but not particularly actionable. Which is an interesting counter-point to the Windows of so many years ago: The entire industry worked on a calendar dominated by Windows releases. Apps would be upgraded on that schedule. PC purchases would spike on that schedule. Hordes of apps would become extinct overnight as Microsoft built their features into new releases of Windows. But now? As a developer, what does a new release of Windows mean to me? What does a new release of Windows mean to startups? Come to think of it, what does a new release of Windows mean to Microsoft? Can Microsoft count on taxing their existing customer base in the form of upgrade revenues? Specifically, incremental upgrade revenues (people upgrading to Windows 8 that wouldn't upgraded to Windows)? Obviously the thing will sell to OEMs and so on, and Microsoft will claim huge wins from corporate customers upgrading, but are we going to see another bit of sales jiggery-pokery where most of the revenue would be money Microsoft would have made anyways?

blazer 16y ago
What we expect from MS in Windows 8: #1. Price: Make it something around $50 to $100 #2. Seriously nobody cares Home basic, Home premium editions. Just discontinue these kind of editions. #2.1 Make it sharp Windows 8 lite ($30), Windows 8 Pro($50), Windows 8 Ultimate($100) #3. Try to have "Software Installer". Ubuntu has a perfect one. That would be great, If we have 100s of latest setup files packed with installation media (Skype, Pidgin, Firefox, MS Office, Putty, Apache, PHP, Python, Flash Player, Adobe Reader, Filezilla, Dropbox) #4. We need a stable firewall in windows. Try to buy companies like "Outpost" and please improve your WIndows one care. (If it still exists) #5. Spywares, Keyloggers, Viruses, Trojans .. We are installing almost 2-3 tools to protect us from these.. Please invest some money to make a stable "Security Software" #6. Please make IE9 avail in cross platform. If ActiveX is the only problem.. Then do it cross platform first. #7. Respect Opensource packages. #8. Password protected directories... #9. Support MORE local languages (See any linux distro) ...

rtaycher 16y ago

Ribbon on explorer is a bit weird but better then then win7 no menu, weird context sensitive button bar.

dfhtyjty 16y ago

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dfhtyjty 16y ago

Qz 16y ago

That ribbon is taking up way too much space considering 80% of it is disabled.

estel 16y ago
Considering how massively pre-alpha the software undoubtedly is, I'm not about to leap to conclusions.

swah 16y ago

That's a huge menu! Respect!

elvirs 16y ago

I would love to be able to have full customization of folders and navigation structure on my windows pc. things like 'games' 'searches' 'links' etc. that nobody (I've not seen one) uses annoy appearing in start menu and all other places eating up screen realestate and making it harder to use. And actually its really hard to get rid of them if not possible. You keep deleting them from various dialog boxes and they some of them keep coming back making it feel like you trying to kill a zombie that keeps coming back with one organ less each time.

jackvalentine 16y ago

Some kind of incentive program to stop OEMs loading new PCs up with crapware. Most importantly, Microsoft Security Essentials installed by default thus removing the need for Norton/Mcafee/whatever. Sure they might get a bit of "anti-trust" flak for it, but it would be worth it to the end user. I do student laptop support for a university at the moment, while I won't be doing it by the time Windows 8 comes out it'd be nice to think my sucessor on the job doesn't have to wade through tonnes of default installed junk to connect to the university wireless.

sagarun 16y ago

The screen shows "Friday April 1", April fools?

callumjones 16y ago

Where do Microsoft hire their designers from? How can one of the richest companies in the world not be able to hire crack designers to actually produce something more than a glossy tacky UI. Or is Microsoft so engineer/developer focused that they let the engineers design the interfaces that normal every-day people will use. And if Windows 8 is supposed to be the touch friendly OS from the ground up, why are they still relying on Ctrl + Alt + Del and implementing that god awful Ribbon UI across the board?

xentronium 16y ago
> why are they still relying on Ctrl + Alt + Del I bet it's gonna be optional. > and implementing that god awful Ribbon UI across the board? Well, that's for consistency, although I am not entirely sure it's a good move, time will show.
jganetsk 16y ago
> why are they still relying on Ctrl + Alt + Del That's a security measure. No application can hook into Ctrl + Alt + Del... the OS always handles it. This way, a malicious application can't phish you with a fake login screen. If they were to pick another key combination to reserve for the OS, they would break backward compatibility.

makecheck 16y ago

Lousy use of space is something that turned me away from Windows from the start, and they are still wasting space. Worse though, it is harder to find alternatives that don't; even Mac OS X these days has more and more iTuneseque apps that fill a huge display without adding much. I think I was happiest with Window Maker on Linux or Solaris.

51Cards 16y ago

"The Windows explorer has also got a lot of new stuffs - mainly the inclusion of ribbons. Ribbons was first introduced in Microsoft Office 2007 and in Windows 7, it was used in other applications such as Paint, WordPad etc. The Ribbons UI makes it possible for users to notice features much more easily than the old menu based system. No doubt some people will complain about the change. However, I believe that the Ribbon UI is quite a good and refreshing replacement for the old menu based system." So to summarize: IE9: "We have the cleanest UI out there, more space for content, less UI! Streamline!" Windows Ribbons: "Show it all to the user! Less space for content, more UI, expose every option all the time!" And we wonder why Microsoft is conflicted. (yes I will admit to being a 'Ribbon Hater')

iaskwhy 16y ago
You know you can just double click on a tab of the ribbon and it will hide, right? I'm a sort of ribbon lover by the way! :)