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Zimbabwe deteriorated under Robert Mugabe

24 points by iafrikan 6y ago

haunter 6y ago
The memoirs of Ian Smith worth a read if you have a spare time https://www.amazon.com/Great-Betrayal-Memoirs-Douglas-Smith/dp/1857821769 https://www.amazon.com/Great-Betrayal-Memoirs-Douglas-Smith/... It wasn't just a personal betrayal but Rhodesia was left on its own too. Even though the UK was right with the NIBMAR policy maybe it could have been played out differently. Also didn't help that the UK media was biased, but hey that's nothing new under the sun just seeing the same in 2020. The old Thames TV reports are all on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qyYFNOBhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qyYFNOBhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3u5CxS3j5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3u5CxS3j5M Good luck to Zimbabwe, but wish you were not in a bed with China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Zimbabwe_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Zimbabwe_relatio...
- perl4ever 6y ago
  Why is that book $295.43?
  - chrstphrknwtn 6y ago
    Many people want to buy it, very few people are selling it.
    - perl4ever 6y ago
      I have a different theory for why obscure books are advertised at absurd prices these days - few people want to buy them, but anyone who does, wants that specific book and there is no substitute, so booksellers have figured out that anything that has any value to anyone is optimally priced at hundreds of dollars.
      - chrstphrknwtn 6y ago
        Yeah, you're probably correct about the opportunistic pricing of not-so-rare and also not-so-in-demand books. It still seems like supply and demand though, in that supply is close to or less than demand.
mmsimanga 6y ago
There was once a comment I read on HN. Paraphrasing, most movements over stay or overreach at some point in time. African liberation movements continued to fight yet they were in power. Instead of getting on with the business of leading. The one lesson I hope we learn as Africans is to put in place systems that work and not place too much faith in people. People tend to be fickle.
- iafrikan 6y ago
  Good poit. All liberation movements fail when transitioning from liberation to governing.
- andrewflnr 6y ago
  This goes for social movements within a country as well, including your pet causes and ones that are obviously (even unironically) right. Balance is hard. Don't assume the rightness of your cause makes you immune.
0xdeadb00f 6y ago
Maybe worth to note this was posted in late (2019)

24 points by iafrikan 6y ago

The memoirs of Ian Smith worth a read if you have a spare time https://www.amazon.com/Great-Betrayal-Memoirs-Douglas-Smith/dp/1857821769 https://www.amazon.com/Great-Betrayal-Memoirs-Douglas-Smith/... It wasn't just a personal betrayal but Rhodesia was left on its own too. Even though the UK was right with the NIBMAR policy maybe it could have been played out differently. Also didn't help that the UK media was biased, but hey that's nothing new under the sun just seeing the same in 2020. The old Thames TV reports are all on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qyYFNOBhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qyYFNOBhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3u5CxS3j5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3u5CxS3j5M Good luck to Zimbabwe, but wish you were not in a bed with China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Zimbabwe_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Zimbabwe_relatio...

perl4ever 6y ago
Why is that book $295.43?
- chrstphrknwtn 6y ago
  Many people want to buy it, very few people are selling it.
  - perl4ever 6y ago
    I have a different theory for why obscure books are advertised at absurd prices these days - few people want to buy them, but anyone who does, wants that specific book and there is no substitute, so booksellers have figured out that anything that has any value to anyone is optimally priced at hundreds of dollars.
    - chrstphrknwtn 6y ago
      Yeah, you're probably correct about the opportunistic pricing of not-so-rare and also not-so-in-demand books. It still seems like supply and demand though, in that supply is close to or less than demand.

mmsimanga 6y ago

There was once a comment I read on HN. Paraphrasing, most movements over stay or overreach at some point in time. African liberation movements continued to fight yet they were in power. Instead of getting on with the business of leading. The one lesson I hope we learn as Africans is to put in place systems that work and not place too much faith in people. People tend to be fickle.

iafrikan 6y ago
Good poit. All liberation movements fail when transitioning from liberation to governing.
andrewflnr 6y ago
This goes for social movements within a country as well, including your pet causes and ones that are obviously (even unironically) right. Balance is hard. Don't assume the rightness of your cause makes you immune.

0xdeadb00f 6y ago

Maybe worth to note this was posted in late (2019)