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For Ctrl+C, I can see how the program can be made to differentiate between which one you want by whether something is highlighted. But how does it know what ac

For Ctrl+C, I can see how the program can be made to differentiate between which one you want by whether something is highlighted. But how does it know what action to take on Ctrl+V?

francislavoie 6y ago
I've literally never used Ctrl+V for anything other than paste, so I'm honestly not sure how it's implemented on Windows Terminal or pantheon-terminal. But the way they have it, it always does what I expect. I'm also very much not a vi user because, for similar reasons, context switching is a nightmare. I use nano everywhere because it works almost exactly like everything else in my system (but honestly I should probably install micro everywhere).
- boring_twenties 6y ago
  Ctrl+V is for quoting a control character. IOW: if you press Ctrl+D, it will cause EOF on the input stream. If you press Tab, it causes your shell to attempt to autocomplete. But if you press Ctrl+V Ctrl+D, or Ctrl+V Tab, it will insert ASCII code 0x04 or 0x09, respectively, into the input stream.
- pmoriarty 6y ago
  I use SHIFT-INSERT in Windows Terminal (and in Linux terminals too, actually, where it works great).
  - francislavoie 6y ago
    That requires using both hands and not only my left hand; if I'm scrolling around or clicking around, I'll have my right hand on my mouse. Ctrl+C/V is a one-handed hotkey and works in every other application. I'm not going to use a different hotkey for a single application. Like I've already said, context switching is a nightmare. I want the same basic hotkeys everywhere.
    - pmoriarty 6y ago
      You could make Ctrl+V send SHIFT-INSERT if you wanted.
      - francislavoie 6y ago
        Okay sure, but that still doesn't solve anything because the fundamental issue is with the Ctrl+C in Alacritty not behaving the way I'd want it to.
        pmoriarty 6y ago
        Hmm.. I wonder if you could get your desired behavior by rebinding Ctrl+C in Alacritty to copy, and also using the "stty" command to change the keyboard shortcut that sends the interrupt signal from Ctrl+C to something else. The latter may be necessary because traditionally you would interrupt programs (like say a runaway cat command or some other long-running process) with Ctrl+C, so using Ctrl+C to copy would normally conflict with that. Though I suppose that a terminal could be implemented in such a way that Ctrl+C is used for copy if some text has been selected and when no text has been selected it could pass that Ctrl+C on to the application running in the terminal. This way Ctrl+C could remain as the shortcut for sending an interrupt signal to apps in the terminal, and you wouldn't have to mess with stty.
  - kyriakos 6y ago
    Remapped to control shift v which can be used with one hand

For Ctrl+C, I can see how the program can be made to differentiate between which one you want by whether something is highlighted. But how does it know what action to take on Ctrl+V?

francislavoie 6y ago

I've literally never used Ctrl+V for anything other than paste, so I'm honestly not sure how it's implemented on Windows Terminal or pantheon-terminal. But the way they have it, it always does what I expect. I'm also very much not a vi user because, for similar reasons, context switching is a nightmare. I use nano everywhere because it works almost exactly like everything else in my system (but honestly I should probably install micro everywhere).

boring_twenties 6y ago
Ctrl+V is for quoting a control character. IOW: if you press Ctrl+D, it will cause EOF on the input stream. If you press Tab, it causes your shell to attempt to autocomplete. But if you press Ctrl+V Ctrl+D, or Ctrl+V Tab, it will insert ASCII code 0x04 or 0x09, respectively, into the input stream.
pmoriarty 6y ago
I use SHIFT-INSERT in Windows Terminal (and in Linux terminals too, actually, where it works great).
- francislavoie 6y ago
  That requires using both hands and not only my left hand; if I'm scrolling around or clicking around, I'll have my right hand on my mouse. Ctrl+C/V is a one-handed hotkey and works in every other application. I'm not going to use a different hotkey for a single application. Like I've already said, context switching is a nightmare. I want the same basic hotkeys everywhere.
  - pmoriarty 6y ago
    You could make Ctrl+V send SHIFT-INSERT if you wanted.
    - francislavoie 6y ago
      Okay sure, but that still doesn't solve anything because the fundamental issue is with the Ctrl+C in Alacritty not behaving the way I'd want it to.
      - pmoriarty 6y ago
        Hmm.. I wonder if you could get your desired behavior by rebinding Ctrl+C in Alacritty to copy, and also using the "stty" command to change the keyboard shortcut that sends the interrupt signal from Ctrl+C to something else. The latter may be necessary because traditionally you would interrupt programs (like say a runaway cat command or some other long-running process) with Ctrl+C, so using Ctrl+C to copy would normally conflict with that. Though I suppose that a terminal could be implemented in such a way that Ctrl+C is used for copy if some text has been selected and when no text has been selected it could pass that Ctrl+C on to the application running in the terminal. This way Ctrl+C could remain as the shortcut for sending an interrupt signal to apps in the terminal, and you wouldn't have to mess with stty.
- kyriakos 6y ago
  Remapped to control shift v which can be used with one hand