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> I thought you generally needed a warrant to obtain private information in Europe. Sadly you thought wrong. Using France as just one example, they allow warra

> I thought you generally needed a warrant to obtain private information in Europe. Sadly you thought wrong. Using France as just one example, they allow warrantless wiretaps, require ISPs to forward intercepted traffic (again without a warrant), and whole bunch of other completely unsavoury stuff. https://www.vox.com/2015/11/14/11620670/france-has-a-powerful-and-controversial-new-surveillance-law https://www.vox.com/2015/11/14/11620670/france-has-a-powerfu... Anything an EU government collects will also be shared freely with all of its SIGINT allies (including the US). https://theintercept.com/2018/03/01/nsa-global-surveillance-sigint-seniors/ https://theintercept.com/2018/03/01/nsa-global-surveillance-... If this was an issue the EU was actually trying to address, you’d quickly find that many member states intelligence collection practices are incompatible with EU privacy laws, along with their intelligence sharing arrangements.

number6 6y ago
EU agencies have exceptions under GDPR but otherwise their doing would also be incompatible with GDPR
JAlexoid 6y ago
LEt's just ignore the little fact that NSA was caught on spying on EU officials during FTA negotiations... not to mention industrial espionage. Intelligence sharing has nothing to do with this.
- jjcon 6y ago
  > caught on spying on EU officials There were reports of possible spying on Merkel but considering Germany then sought entrance into the five eyes (a process currently underway) it seems there is likely a lot more than meets the eye there
- AmericanChopper 6y ago
  > Intelligence sharing has nothing to do with this. If the issue in contention is US companies being unable to protect against privacy intrusions from the US government, then EU companies being equally unable to protect against privacy intrusions from the US government sounds entirely relevant to me...

number6 6y ago

EU agencies have exceptions under GDPR but otherwise their doing would also be incompatible with GDPR

JAlexoid 6y ago

LEt's just ignore the little fact that NSA was caught on spying on EU officials during FTA negotiations... not to mention industrial espionage. Intelligence sharing has nothing to do with this.

jjcon 6y ago
> caught on spying on EU officials There were reports of possible spying on Merkel but considering Germany then sought entrance into the five eyes (a process currently underway) it seems there is likely a lot more than meets the eye there
AmericanChopper 6y ago
> Intelligence sharing has nothing to do with this. If the issue in contention is US companies being unable to protect against privacy intrusions from the US government, then EU companies being equally unable to protect against privacy intrusions from the US government sounds entirely relevant to me...