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This divestiture happened long ago, if your running Linux not on a server, then Intel and AMD are the only players making chips that work right out of the box.
by posguy 6y ago
This divestiture happened long ago, if your running Linux not on a server, then Intel and AMD are the only players making chips that work right out of the box.
Even there though, only Intel has a buttery smooth experience. Ryzen for laptops is half baked (terrible USB C docking performance, occasional crashing on Windows and Linux with the 2xxxU series CPU/GPU chips) and AMD GPUs still require manual intervention to load proprietary firmware.
AMD does make some performant mobile GPUs though, they work well in Debian!
- lmm 6y agoFunny, I stick with NVidia because they still offer more reliable, performant drivers for Linux (or these days FreeBSD), open source or no.
- posguy 6y agoHow so? Aren't you still trapped on Xorg with their proprietary drivers? I switched to Wayland a few years back as vsync is quite nice to have, but whenever I go back to Xorg for AnyDesk or TeamViewer on AMD or Intel there is a fair bit of tearing. Nvidia could have a competitive open source driver tomorrow if they released redistributable firmware that allowed reclocking the GPU.
- lmm 6y ago> How so? Aren't you still trapped on Xorg with their proprietary drivers? As a FreeBSD user I'm still "trapped" on Xorg anyway, and in any case I'd rather stick with what works than learn some whole new way of doing things for marginal benefits.
- AsyncAwait 6y agoThis is the sort of mentality I left the *BSD world for. Xorg is not some elegant codebase that's being unfairly targeted by an upstart.
- lmm 6y ago> Xorg is not some elegant codebase that's being unfairly targeted by an upstart. I never said it was. I said it's a whole new way of doing things for marginal benefits; is that not accurate?
- floatboth 6y agoYou're not. I've been using Wayland exclusively on FreeBSD for a couple years now, with both AMD and Intel GPUs.
- pmontra 6y agoHow do you go back to Xorg? Logout/login and/or reboot or is there a better way? I'm asking this because I often need screen sharing to work with my customers (demoes, check problems, etc) and I'm sticking with Xorg because Wayland doesn't do screen sharing.
- rhn_mk1 6y agoOr even if they simply stopped signing their firmware. Nouveau has been perfectly capable of writing their own firmware.
- AsyncAwait 6y agoIntel's drivers are far more reliable in my experience.
- lmm 6y agoSlightly more reliable, but they don't make any cards that are good enough for gaming with IME.
- pjmlp 6y agoThey might work, for some definition of working, now getting the full capabilities of the GPU is another matter. OpenGL 3.3 when the proprietary drivers do OpenGL 4.1 for example. https://www.gpuzoo.com/GPU-AMD/Radeon_HD_6320_IGP.html https://www.gpuzoo.com/GPU-AMD/Radeon_HD_6320_IGP.html
- fluffything 6y ago> then Intel and AMD are the only players making chips that work right out of the box. I have an Intel GFX card. Had an AMD 5700. Linux support sucked, switched back to intel. So AFAICT, only intel and nvidia have good Linux driver support, and only intel has good open source linux driver support.