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> I once saw a 1 hour presentation on the cryptography design of the iPhone compared to an Android phone. The IOS design used layers of fine-grained encryption

> I once saw a 1 hour presentation on the cryptography design of the iPhone compared to an Android phone. The IOS design used layers of fine-grained encryption and was obviously carefully thought out to protect the consumer from: device theft, misbehaving apps, illegal searches by law enforcement, and even nation-state levels of spying. When was this? Do you have a link? Was this like the usual grandiose presentations that Apple usually does? Cause I don't think this how it is for last few years. Disc: Google but nowhere close to Android other than using an Android phone.

jiggawatts 6y ago
It was some developer conference years ago that I watched on YouTube. Speaking of which, YouTube is another one of those Google properties that clearly doesn't care about the user. Things like: For me, YouTube streams from the wrong city because of a bad Geo IP database somewhere in Google, and so 4K streams stutter even on a gigabit fibre internet connection. Google makes it very clear that there is nothing anyone outside of Google can do about this. Not me, not my ISP, not anybody. (PS: I pay $15 monthly for YouTube Premium, about the same amount I pay for Netflix. Netflix streams flawlessly, and they have a support service I can contact to solve streaming issues if it doesn't work as expected.) Similarly, YouTube's UI is very slow on Firefox for no good reason other than: "Google doesn't care about anything but Chrome". These all have reasons for why they are the way the are. I get it. Geo IP databases are inaccurate and a hassle to update. Firefox is not the biggest browser, and Google focuses on their own products first. I get it. But as a user, these kind of things erodes my trust in Google, and makes me realise that I'm the "product", not the customer. My interests are not Google's interests. My interests are Apple's interests, however, which is why I have an iPhone and will never buy an Android phone under any circumstances.
- nojvek 6y ago
  I think Google is a victim of its promotion culture which over values new shiny things over well built super reliable things that do one thing really well. Netflix takes streaming seriously. It’s always really smooth even on low powered devices. The Amazon app on our 5 year old Vizio TV still crashes after some use, so does the YouTube app. Netflix however is always responsive and doesn’t require restart. GP is right, very few companies have the discipline to not chase after shiny things.
easton 6y ago
I believe this is what OP is talking about: https://youtu.be/BLGFriOKz6U https://youtu.be/BLGFriOKz6U

jiggawatts 6y ago

It was some developer conference years ago that I watched on YouTube. Speaking of which, YouTube is another one of those Google properties that clearly doesn't care about the user. Things like: For me, YouTube streams from the wrong city because of a bad Geo IP database somewhere in Google, and so 4K streams stutter even on a gigabit fibre internet connection. Google makes it very clear that there is nothing anyone outside of Google can do about this. Not me, not my ISP, not anybody. (PS: I pay $15 monthly for YouTube Premium, about the same amount I pay for Netflix. Netflix streams flawlessly, and they have a support service I can contact to solve streaming issues if it doesn't work as expected.) Similarly, YouTube's UI is very slow on Firefox for no good reason other than: "Google doesn't care about anything but Chrome". These all have reasons for why they are the way the are. I get it. Geo IP databases are inaccurate and a hassle to update. Firefox is not the biggest browser, and Google focuses on their own products first. I get it. But as a user, these kind of things erodes my trust in Google, and makes me realise that I'm the "product", not the customer. My interests are not Google's interests. My interests are Apple's interests, however, which is why I have an iPhone and will never buy an Android phone under any circumstances.

nojvek 6y ago
I think Google is a victim of its promotion culture which over values new shiny things over well built super reliable things that do one thing really well. Netflix takes streaming seriously. It’s always really smooth even on low powered devices. The Amazon app on our 5 year old Vizio TV still crashes after some use, so does the YouTube app. Netflix however is always responsive and doesn’t require restart. GP is right, very few companies have the discipline to not chase after shiny things.

easton 6y ago

I believe this is what OP is talking about: https://youtu.be/BLGFriOKz6U https://youtu.be/BLGFriOKz6U