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Sometimes I feel like it's only a matter of time laws in this area take an unfortunate turn for the worst in many other countries (US obviously being one of the

by ve55 6y ago

Sometimes I feel like it's only a matter of time laws in this area take an unfortunate turn for the worst in many other countries (US obviously being one of the biggest). Every time we fight tooth-and-claw to get a terrible act from passing, a new one pops up a few months later.

TeMPOraL 6y ago
It's because we're fighting the symptoms, not the disease. Behind each of these proposed law reforms are the same private actors that try to make their business models legally protected, to use the might of the state to force people - both would-be competitors and regular citizens - to play by incumbent rules. Beyond protesting every single one of these bullshit copyright "reforms", we need to start hacking closer to the root of the problem. That includes limiting the ability of corporate entities to dictate - or even propose - policies, and - in my personal opinion - burning down the whole concept of "intellectual property" and building it back up, in a form that serves the betterment of society instead of just the rent seekers.
- MrYellowP 6y ago
  It's because we're fighting the symptoms, not the disease. First you state this, then you state this: Behind each of these proposed law reforms are the same private actors that try to make their business models legally protected The disease are politicians willing to create laws that do not serve the public. If they didn't exist, private actors would have no leg to stand on. That's the disease. NOT the private actors.
  - einpoklum 6y ago
    > The disease are politicians willing to create laws that do not serve the public. If they didn't exist, private actors would have no leg to stand on. That's the disease. NOT the private actors. I think you're still describing the symptom. These politicians are also "actors", part of a system. It's not that there are too many bad politicians and not enough good ones. It's the socio-political system which is designed so that companies and people who own large amounts of money - capitalists if you will - have much more influence on the political process than most people, individually and even combined. However, when we generalize to this level - it becomes exceedingly difficult to attack the root cause rather than the symptoms.

by ve55 6y ago

TeMPOraL 6y ago

It's because we're fighting the symptoms, not the disease. Behind each of these proposed law reforms are the same private actors that try to make their business models legally protected, to use the might of the state to force people - both would-be competitors and regular citizens - to play by incumbent rules. Beyond protesting every single one of these bullshit copyright "reforms", we need to start hacking closer to the root of the problem. That includes limiting the ability of corporate entities to dictate - or even propose - policies, and - in my personal opinion - burning down the whole concept of "intellectual property" and building it back up, in a form that serves the betterment of society instead of just the rent seekers.

MrYellowP 6y ago
It's because we're fighting the symptoms, not the disease. First you state this, then you state this: Behind each of these proposed law reforms are the same private actors that try to make their business models legally protected The disease are politicians willing to create laws that do not serve the public. If they didn't exist, private actors would have no leg to stand on. That's the disease. NOT the private actors.
- einpoklum 6y ago
  > The disease are politicians willing to create laws that do not serve the public. If they didn't exist, private actors would have no leg to stand on. That's the disease. NOT the private actors. I think you're still describing the symptom. These politicians are also "actors", part of a system. It's not that there are too many bad politicians and not enough good ones. It's the socio-political system which is designed so that companies and people who own large amounts of money - capitalists if you will - have much more influence on the political process than most people, individually and even combined. However, when we generalize to this level - it becomes exceedingly difficult to attack the root cause rather than the symptoms.