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> The manufacturer of the device is within their rights to ship the software/hardware experience they want it to have. This is the same logic people use to blo

by umvi 6y ago

> The manufacturer of the device is within their rights to ship the software/hardware experience they want it to have. This is the same logic people use to block modification of movies, music, books, video games, etc. "The artist wants you to experience their art a specific way and the ability to [censor profanity/add zombies/change the ending/remix it] wrests control from the creator and allows people experience their art in a way they didn't intend, which is bad" Curiously though, these people never mention altering food as destroying the experience the chef wanted them to have. For some reason consumers are allowed to have food preferences that modify art, but not preferences that modify other types of art.

karpierz 6y ago
Sure, and if you order food at a restaurant and and want to modify it, don't expect the chef to let you into the kitchen and use their tools to do it.
- umvi 6y ago
  Precisely! And you would also hope the food doesn't come inside a bullet-proof glass bubble with a robotic arm as the only interface between you and the food to ensure you eat it exactly the way the chef intended. And furthermore you would hope breaking the bullet-proof glass bubble so you can feed yourself and pick out the mushrooms won't cause the chef to send lawyers after you (especially if you teach others how to).
  - perl4ever 6y ago
    It's normal for restaurants to restrict what you eat and how, even if the food belongs to you. Have you ever tried to bring, say, a cake or a bottle of wine to dinner with you? Some places might just say no outside food or drink, but others will say you have to pay them per slice to cut your own cake, for instance. Or you have to pay them to uncork your wine[1]. So although you're presenting an analogy intended to be absurd, I think it's not far from how the normal non-tech world works, in terms of controlling your experience. [1]https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/corkage https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/corkage
- notsureaboutpg 6y ago
  But if I buy the food and take it out of the restaurant I can do what I want with it. Why can I not do what I want with an iOS device no matter where I take it?

by umvi 6y ago

karpierz 6y ago

Sure, and if you order food at a restaurant and and want to modify it, don't expect the chef to let you into the kitchen and use their tools to do it.

umvi 6y ago
Precisely! And you would also hope the food doesn't come inside a bullet-proof glass bubble with a robotic arm as the only interface between you and the food to ensure you eat it exactly the way the chef intended. And furthermore you would hope breaking the bullet-proof glass bubble so you can feed yourself and pick out the mushrooms won't cause the chef to send lawyers after you (especially if you teach others how to).
- perl4ever 6y ago
  It's normal for restaurants to restrict what you eat and how, even if the food belongs to you. Have you ever tried to bring, say, a cake or a bottle of wine to dinner with you? Some places might just say no outside food or drink, but others will say you have to pay them per slice to cut your own cake, for instance. Or you have to pay them to uncork your wine[1]. So although you're presenting an analogy intended to be absurd, I think it's not far from how the normal non-tech world works, in terms of controlling your experience. [1]https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/corkage https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/corkage
notsureaboutpg 6y ago
But if I buy the food and take it out of the restaurant I can do what I want with it. Why can I not do what I want with an iOS device no matter where I take it?