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I'm curious, if you didn't like the way it is, why did you buy one? None of these things are new. They've basically been the same since they came out. You lar

I'm curious, if you didn't like the way it is, why did you buy one? None of these things are new. They've basically been the same since they came out. You largely had a choice of two products. It sounds like one did what you wanted, and one didn't. You bought the one that didn't and now you're unhappy about it. I don't quite understand that.

p49k 6y ago
We shouldn’t have to choose between one of two products, each of which is controlled by a giant, unaccountable entity which has its own type of anti-competitive stranglehold on consumers and engages in harmful behavior. It’s pretty clear the only path out of this situation is to rethink antitrust laws in a society where companies have evolved to evade them, and to legislate.
- scarface74 6y ago
  Apple is very accountable. If users don’t like their products, they can buy an Android. Apple has to give users some reason to pay the Apple premium.
wayneftw 6y ago
It doesn’t matter why I bought one. Car manufactures can’t just do whatever they want. They have to follow rules. What’s wrong with people wanting Apple and Google to follow some rules? Having a rule that all smartphones should allow sideloading would not be the end of the world for people who like Apple’s app store. Those people would still have the choice to us it.
- scarface74 6y ago
  Would you also pass those rules for console makers? Do you also complain that you can’t put gas in a Tesla even though you should have known that it was designed that way? Did you watch the hearing the other day? Do you really trust those people to regulate tech?
- albertop 6y ago
  No. I actually like the fact there is no sideloading. Why should I be forced to like what you like.
- CubsFan1060 6y ago
  I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be argumentative. I just truly don't understand it. It kinda feels like the people that move close to an airport and then complain about air traffic. You knew the deal going in, but you went in anyway. And now you're upset about the choice you made. So what I'm really curious about is why is that? Regardless of the legality beyond it, why did you make a choice you're upset with?
jsnell 6y ago
I bought an iPad because mobile Safari is a compatibility nightmare and not available on non-iOS platforms, so I needed it just for debugging and testing. Telling 20% of my users to switch to another browser is not an option either, since the only alternatives are just Safari reskins.
throwaway34241 6y ago
> It sounds like one did what you wanted, and one didn't Two products is not a huge number. It seems likely that neither product was exactly what they want, and this is just a particular thing they don't like about iPhones.

p49k 6y ago

We shouldn’t have to choose between one of two products, each of which is controlled by a giant, unaccountable entity which has its own type of anti-competitive stranglehold on consumers and engages in harmful behavior. It’s pretty clear the only path out of this situation is to rethink antitrust laws in a society where companies have evolved to evade them, and to legislate.

scarface74 6y ago
Apple is very accountable. If users don’t like their products, they can buy an Android. Apple has to give users some reason to pay the Apple premium.

wayneftw 6y ago

It doesn’t matter why I bought one. Car manufactures can’t just do whatever they want. They have to follow rules. What’s wrong with people wanting Apple and Google to follow some rules? Having a rule that all smartphones should allow sideloading would not be the end of the world for people who like Apple’s app store. Those people would still have the choice to us it.

scarface74 6y ago
Would you also pass those rules for console makers? Do you also complain that you can’t put gas in a Tesla even though you should have known that it was designed that way? Did you watch the hearing the other day? Do you really trust those people to regulate tech?
albertop 6y ago
No. I actually like the fact there is no sideloading. Why should I be forced to like what you like.
CubsFan1060 6y ago
I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be argumentative. I just truly don't understand it. It kinda feels like the people that move close to an airport and then complain about air traffic. You knew the deal going in, but you went in anyway. And now you're upset about the choice you made. So what I'm really curious about is why is that? Regardless of the legality beyond it, why did you make a choice you're upset with?

jsnell 6y ago

I bought an iPad because mobile Safari is a compatibility nightmare and not available on non-iOS platforms, so I needed it just for debugging and testing. Telling 20% of my users to switch to another browser is not an option either, since the only alternatives are just Safari reskins.

throwaway34241 6y ago

> It sounds like one did what you wanted, and one didn't Two products is not a huge number. It seems likely that neither product was exactly what they want, and this is just a particular thing they don't like about iPhones.