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Imagine a 17 year old robs a bank and steal 100k from the savings accounts of random people. Or a 17 year old steals a couple of cars from random people off th

Imagine a 17 year old robs a bank and steal 100k from the savings accounts of random people. Or a 17 year old steals a couple of cars from random people off the street... The crime is not breaking into Twitter. The crime is theft. Twitter didn't steal that money, this guy did. Let's not pretend the internet is a magical land without consequences.

paulpauper 6y ago
technically he did not take the money but rather ppl gave it to him under a false pretense. It is close enough but one can imagine a jury being harder one someone who stole vs exploited his victim's greed and gullibility.
- ehsankia 6y ago
  In the US, scams are still "conspiracy to commit money laundering", which is what the kid was charged with. Also wire fraud.
Taek 6y ago
> Imagine a 17 year old robs a bank and steal 100k from the savings accounts of random people. I think that's a great comparison. But it's not an armed robbery, it's a break-and-enter where no property gets destroyed. How many felonies does the robber get after being caught? I don't actually know but I'm guessing 1-3? Certainly stealing $100k is a deserving felony. But 30 felonies seems a bit steep.
- user5994461 6y ago
  The guys have a very long history of scams, with $700 000 seized before this twitter thing it seems. That money is very much destroyed for the people whom it was stolen from.
- ChrisLomont 6y ago
  It depends on how many laws with felony consequences each broke. If a robber hacks a computer (a felony), impersonates law enforcement (a felony), uses that to commit fraud (a felony), then transfers stolen money across state lines (a felony), then tries to launder it (a felony)..... You can see how such things can stack up.
- ehsankia 6y ago
  They technically also violated every single person they hacked, which includes the previous president of the united states, large company such as apple, and the upcoming presidential candidate. Now imagine not only the 17yo stole 100k from the bank, but also entered the houses of people such as Obama and Biden, and potentially stole documents from their desks.
- cutemonster 6y ago
  > a great comparison What! It's more as if he, once in the bank, added a poster: "mail money to street 123 city Abcde, and we'll mail you twice back"
tazedsoul 6y ago
If a 17 year-old gains access temporarily to a bank vault, while they’re in there it’s not possible they could also cause a nuclear war. The crimes are similar at face value but meaningfully different.
burntbridge 6y ago
Using your analogy imagine the bank had kept the client's money in a cardboard box in a shed out the back. They did this because they didn't want to pay for a safe. The thieves should prosecuted but so should the bank.

paulpauper 6y ago

technically he did not take the money but rather ppl gave it to him under a false pretense. It is close enough but one can imagine a jury being harder one someone who stole vs exploited his victim's greed and gullibility.

ehsankia 6y ago
In the US, scams are still "conspiracy to commit money laundering", which is what the kid was charged with. Also wire fraud.

Taek 6y ago

> Imagine a 17 year old robs a bank and steal 100k from the savings accounts of random people. I think that's a great comparison. But it's not an armed robbery, it's a break-and-enter where no property gets destroyed. How many felonies does the robber get after being caught? I don't actually know but I'm guessing 1-3? Certainly stealing $100k is a deserving felony. But 30 felonies seems a bit steep.

user5994461 6y ago
The guys have a very long history of scams, with $700 000 seized before this twitter thing it seems. That money is very much destroyed for the people whom it was stolen from.
ChrisLomont 6y ago
It depends on how many laws with felony consequences each broke. If a robber hacks a computer (a felony), impersonates law enforcement (a felony), uses that to commit fraud (a felony), then transfers stolen money across state lines (a felony), then tries to launder it (a felony)..... You can see how such things can stack up.
ehsankia 6y ago
They technically also violated every single person they hacked, which includes the previous president of the united states, large company such as apple, and the upcoming presidential candidate. Now imagine not only the 17yo stole 100k from the bank, but also entered the houses of people such as Obama and Biden, and potentially stole documents from their desks.
cutemonster 6y ago
> a great comparison What! It's more as if he, once in the bank, added a poster: "mail money to street 123 city Abcde, and we'll mail you twice back"

tazedsoul 6y ago

If a 17 year-old gains access temporarily to a bank vault, while they’re in there it’s not possible they could also cause a nuclear war. The crimes are similar at face value but meaningfully different.

burntbridge 6y ago

Using your analogy imagine the bank had kept the client's money in a cardboard box in a shed out the back. They did this because they didn't want to pay for a safe. The thieves should prosecuted but so should the bank.