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are there dietary sources of glucosamine?
by bigpumpkin 6y ago
are there dietary sources of glucosamine?
- throw1234651234 6y agoYes - cartilage. If you eat chicken or something like that, eat the cartilage. You can do this on pre-cooked chickens you get from Sam's Club / Costco. If you eat chicken breasts only (which a lot of health-conscious people do), you don't get this benefit. I talked to Dr.Yang Jwing Ming (one of the few Kung Fu practioners with a Western phd and he said eating cartilage is one of the best ways to help reduce the risk of arthritis. Oh, and pig ears too, but I never tried that, being a Westerner and all.
- mrfusion 6y agoWould chicken bone broth have it?
- Malic 6y agoQuite probably. I am assuming that home-made methods are similar as industrial scale methods (put a bunch of chicken bones and connective tissue in a vat of water, simmer, strain).
- ex_amazon_sde 6y agoNo, it's a myth: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/02/10/384948585/taking-stock-of-bone-broth-sorry-no-cure-all-here https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/02/10/384948585/ta... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5533136/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5533136/ https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/11/truth-about-bone-broth/ https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/11/truth-about-...
- mrfusion 6y agoNone of those mention Glucosamine. And they seem to be sour grapes articles, not sure why. One of the “myths” they dispel is “bone broth tastes good”. It does raise some good thoughts on why it’s not a super food.
- Jenny8675309 6y agoI read research that to reap benefits of these sources ( collagen, etc) your stomach acid needs to be strong enough to break it down- old people have weaker stomach acid so they get wrinkles easier- Supplement apple cider vinegar, lemon juice etc or other fermented foods raises stomach acid strength and raises blood Alkalinity, or so I heard
- graeme 6y agoCollagen has it too?
- lottin 6y agoWesterners have eaten pig ears for centuries.
- hombre_fatal 6y agoI would be surprised if I've met anyone in the US who has eaten pig ear nor the chicken feet you see next to them in the hispanic market. And just about everyone would react to the ick factor. I don't think it's as common as you think: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig%27s_ear_(food) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig%27s_ear_(food).
- hellotomyrars 6y agoI don't really know of anyone who eats pig ears but chicken feet aren't that weird for the American South.
- lottin 6y agoIt's not super-common but it's nothing out of the ordinary either. Many restaurants in Southern Europe, including France, serve dishes such as pig feet, pig snout or pig head.
- neximo64 6y agoAlso explains how 'Westerners' have been living so long for centuries, especially before the 1960s.
- xxs 6y agoPig ears are absolutely delicious
- pruneridge 6y agoI really hope at some point in our lifetimes, the deleterious effects of animal protein are pervasively understood by educated Americans to the point where consuming animal parts for their anti-inflammatory benefits would be an oxymoron on par with smoking to prevent cancer. An overwhelming body of scientific evidence suggests that humans are omnivores and not carnivores and the human body evolved to process animal protein on an occasional basis(like alcohol) and not because it’s good for us on a daily basis.
- throw1234651234 6y ago1. Glucosamine is not a protein. 2. The claimed benefit of glucosamine is not anti-inflammation, but providing the building blocks for cartilage repair as synovial fluid is circulated in the joint. 3. It's very difficult to get sufficient protein from a plant based diet, especially when avoiding soy, which raises estrogen.
- kyuudou 6y agoAnother great way to get cartilage is with chicken soup, slow cooked until the gristle liquefies in to the soup. It's more absorbable by the body that way. Chicken fat is great for the skin, too. Easy and cheap to cook - just get a whole hen and simmer it in water in a big pot, or use a crock pot.
- clairity 6y agothere's no reason to believe macromolecules like glucosamine benefit the body any more than regular, nutritious food. ingested nutrition generally gets broken down into amino acids and the like in the digestive system before it gets distributed to the rest of the body to be reconsistuted into cells and tissue. cartilage in particular is scaffolding and generally must be constructed by other cells from very basic molecules at anchor points. it's decidedly not like lego blocks of glucosamine and chondroitin that just get assembled together.
- triceratops 6y agoGlucosamine supplementation doesn't appear to have harmful effects on humans and is pretty cheap. It may work for some people, so if you have joint issues why not give it a shot?
- TuringNYC 6y agoYou raise a good point, but wouldnt taking glucosamine and chondroitin load you up (hopefully) on the base components required to then again make glucosamine and chondroitin locally in one's body?
- Someone 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucosamine#Bioavailability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucosamine#Bioavailability: “In the first study, glucosamine sulfate was given to healthy volunteers in doses of 750, 1500, or 3000 mg once daily. In the second study, oral glucosamine sulfate capsules (1500 mg) were given daily for two weeks to 12 people with osteoarthritis. Glucosamine concentrations in plasma and synovial fluid increased significantly from baseline levels […] but the levels are still ten- to a hundredfold lower than required to positively affect the cartilage (chondrocytes) to build new tissue” ⇒ the good news is that these molecules make it through the intestines intact, and arrive at the place where they are supposed to help. The bad news seems to be you would need to take huge doses.
- sroussey 6y agoAs someone that has taken various vitamins and supplements over the years, glucosamine is the one where I truly feel a difference. In my knees, my back stopped cracking when I woke up, and generally just better. Others I take based on blood tests if something is out of whack for a time.
- ghastmaster 6y agoIt is important to remember the study only saw a correlation between the dietary supplement and mortality. Glucosamine Sulfate is from what I understand the most common form in the supplements on the shelf. Our bodies produce glucosamine naturally. > Specifically in humans, glucosamine-6-phosphate is synthesized from fructose 6-phosphate and glutamine by glutamine—fructose-6-phosphate transaminase as the first step of the hexosamine biosynthesis pathway -wikipedia
- youeseh 6y agoDon't worry. By the time [insert popular news outlet] finds out about this, it'll be a cure all.