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> Have some appreciation--even awe--for the art you enjoy. Haha, no. Artists aren’t some gift from God here to bestow the world with joy from the heavens that

by xwdv 6y ago

> Have some appreciation--even awe--for the art you enjoy. Haha, no. Artists aren’t some gift from God here to bestow the world with joy from the heavens that we should all marvel at. They are people who chose to learn a skill capable of outputting something suitable for consumption as entertainment. As such, it is their job to be putting out these works regularly, just like everyone else. Appreciation is nice, but doesn’t matter. Everyday people do mundane things that you have no idea how to do and probably go unappreciated, yet they are more necessary than any sort of “art”. Take art down from the pedestal please.

IncRnd 6y ago
Art is the highest pinnacle of human achievement. Perhaps, not everything you call art was made with artistry or is artistic.
- JAlexoid 6y ago
  All non functional human expression is art - PERIOD. Just because you may not like my perfectly polished cube and don't see the meaning I put into it - doesn't make it "not art".
  - IncRnd 6y ago
    I understand you believe that, but art is literally that which flows from a creative expression. Creative action or expression is the definition, the etymology, and the realization of art. Artistry is that which finds expression in the creative act of expressing art. That is not the same as all non-functional human expression.
JAlexoid 6y ago
I agree that "art" isn't some kind of a uplifted thing. Certain pieces of art are uplifting. Art itself is just human expression.
jongold 6y ago
you're conflating technical ability with the rest of the creative process: intuiting narratives in the collective unconscious & channeling inspiration from a much, much greater source to make something wholly outside of the artist. that's not to say that artists are "geniuses" who should be put on pedestals, but it's a fundamentally different thing than a vocation
claudiawerner 6y ago
>As such, it is their job to be putting out these works regularly, just like everyone else. This framing of human creativity purely in terms of "outputting", "consumption", and mere "entertainment" ignores possibilities outside the sphere of the market, and outside production-for-sale. Art may well suffer from the compulsion to "put it out regularly". I think the fact that art lived through patronage for much of human history is the only reason we have so much good art today.

by xwdv 6y ago

IncRnd 6y ago

Art is the highest pinnacle of human achievement. Perhaps, not everything you call art was made with artistry or is artistic.

JAlexoid 6y ago
All non functional human expression is art - PERIOD. Just because you may not like my perfectly polished cube and don't see the meaning I put into it - doesn't make it "not art".
- IncRnd 6y ago
  I understand you believe that, but art is literally that which flows from a creative expression. Creative action or expression is the definition, the etymology, and the realization of art. Artistry is that which finds expression in the creative act of expressing art. That is not the same as all non-functional human expression.

JAlexoid 6y ago

I agree that "art" isn't some kind of a uplifted thing. Certain pieces of art are uplifting. Art itself is just human expression.

jongold 6y ago

you're conflating technical ability with the rest of the creative process: intuiting narratives in the collective unconscious & channeling inspiration from a much, much greater source to make something wholly outside of the artist. that's not to say that artists are "geniuses" who should be put on pedestals, but it's a fundamentally different thing than a vocation

claudiawerner 6y ago

>As such, it is their job to be putting out these works regularly, just like everyone else. This framing of human creativity purely in terms of "outputting", "consumption", and mere "entertainment" ignores possibilities outside the sphere of the market, and outside production-for-sale. Art may well suffer from the compulsion to "put it out regularly". I think the fact that art lived through patronage for much of human history is the only reason we have so much good art today.