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Millions of peace activists, including yourself, have no idea about the danger that would put some eastern European countries. World peace is not maintained by

Millions of peace activists, including yourself, have no idea about the danger that would put some eastern European countries. World peace is not maintained by hugs and kisses. Big sticks keeps peace.

runarberg 6y ago
So even if we peace activists are wrong in our ideology, we are still capable of braking into news site’s CMS to inject fake news to further our (in your opinion) wrong agenda.
- Darmody 6y ago
  How does that change anything? ISIS had hackers, that doesn't make them good or anything. I don't want to compare you with ISIS, I'm just trying to make a point.
  - runarberg 6y ago
    You keep missing my point. It doesn’t matter if they are good or noble or anything (also ISIS is not a civilian group). It matters that there exist civilian groups that are a) capable, b) willing, and c) have reasons to do something like this. Civilian anti-military activists are such a group, regardless of how correct, or noble the cause is. Just to prevent misunderstanding: I am not accusing peace activists of these attacks. I’m just saying that non-state actors have ample reasons and self justifications for pulling this off. And for that matter juvenile teenagers that just so happen to hate NATO for whatever reason might just as well have done this.
    - rumanator 6y ago
      We can either spend all week coming up with fake suspects, or we could call a spade a spade based on all the piling evidence. https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2019/04/26/russian-intelligence-operations-shifting-tactics-not-goals/index.html https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2019/04/26/russian...
      - runarberg 6y ago
        > based on all the piling evidence As you link to an article written by a partial actor over a year before the crime. Just because an actor is guilty of several crimes, it won’t mean that all similar crimes conducted afterwards are conducted by that same actor.

runarberg 6y ago

So even if we peace activists are wrong in our ideology, we are still capable of braking into news site’s CMS to inject fake news to further our (in your opinion) wrong agenda.

Darmody 6y ago
How does that change anything? ISIS had hackers, that doesn't make them good or anything. I don't want to compare you with ISIS, I'm just trying to make a point.
- runarberg 6y ago
  You keep missing my point. It doesn’t matter if they are good or noble or anything (also ISIS is not a civilian group). It matters that there exist civilian groups that are a) capable, b) willing, and c) have reasons to do something like this. Civilian anti-military activists are such a group, regardless of how correct, or noble the cause is. Just to prevent misunderstanding: I am not accusing peace activists of these attacks. I’m just saying that non-state actors have ample reasons and self justifications for pulling this off. And for that matter juvenile teenagers that just so happen to hate NATO for whatever reason might just as well have done this.
  - rumanator 6y ago
    We can either spend all week coming up with fake suspects, or we could call a spade a spade based on all the piling evidence. https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2019/04/26/russian-intelligence-operations-shifting-tactics-not-goals/index.html https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2019/04/26/russian...
    - runarberg 6y ago
      > based on all the piling evidence As you link to an article written by a partial actor over a year before the crime. Just because an actor is guilty of several crimes, it won’t mean that all similar crimes conducted afterwards are conducted by that same actor.