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I am curious what the comments would be like when China or other country will put thousands of satellites around the world. I expect one of the first comments

I am curious what the comments would be like when China or other country will put thousands of satellites around the world. I expect one of the first comments to be "why not give money to X US company instead of reinventing the wheel" and other comment about spying.

jaybeeayyy 6y ago
You're not kidding. I can only imagine the anger and outrage if North Korea, China, Russia etc. all launched 20,000+ satellites into space. I'd guess we'd have a few people trying to shoot them down from their back yard, actually.
kerng 6y ago
I'd imagine China doing this soon, even if it's just because they can.
sneak 6y ago
I will be happy when anyone in any country does it, because they will likely be paying SpaceX to perform the launches, and SpaceX, regardless of national origin, seems to be making the most progress toward a future where there is regular passenger service to the moon. I would very much like to live off of the Earth.
- simion314 6y ago
  I think you forget other countries have rockets too, satellites and rovers that were not launched by SpaceX. There is no more a theoretical situation that US can have a country locked our of software or hardware so larger countries would not want to have this dependency or have NSA/CIA intercept your satellites before launch and backdoor them(that is their job will be the excuse).
  - sneak 6y ago
    Nobody else has reusable rockets (yet), which means that regardless of capability, it is much, much more expensive for anyone else to do an orbital launch. LEO constellations require lots of launches. This is not to say it’s impossible, just that for it to be within an order of magnitude of the cost on SpaceX, someone else needs to come up with reusability as well. I have no doubt that someone will, I just wonder about when, and if it will be in time to benefit anyone else’s presently announced LEO internet access constellations. It’s also possible that Amazon will just eat the cost of disposable rocket launches; it’s not like they couldn’t afford it if they wished.
    - simion314 6y ago
      Yes is more expensive but governments burn this kind of money all the time on military and other shit. I do not see China or India giving money to US to launch satellites from them. Private small companies will probably rent such SpaceX satelites.
      - sneak 6y ago
        Are there any planned government LEO internet access constellations that will be consumer-facing products? The only ones I’ve heard about are Starlink (first party by launching entity), OneWeb (which had to be bailed out), and Kepler (Amazon, so theoretically unlimited funding available).
        simion314 6y ago
        I am not aware of any, it is a very niche thing though since the majority of people can be connected with cables(I know in US there are issues but in other countries if you have electricity in a remote place you can just add a internet cable on the same polls and bring cheap and fast internet to everyone). Do you honestly see China,Russia or India governments giving money to a foreign company when they have their own space programs? The governments to not min-max for short term financials and you also have on top of that the security issue to trust US.
        sneak 6y ago
        I think there will be tons of global customers for Starlink. Any cable or signal that leaves the premises has to be encrypted anyway, addressing the privacy security issue for civilians, and the military, which also has availability as a security concern already has a local/nationally-run satcom system for their use today. Satcom isn’t an issue for governments right now. It is, however, for billions of normal people who live far from population/commerce centers.

jaybeeayyy 6y ago

You're not kidding. I can only imagine the anger and outrage if North Korea, China, Russia etc. all launched 20,000+ satellites into space. I'd guess we'd have a few people trying to shoot them down from their back yard, actually.

kerng 6y ago

I'd imagine China doing this soon, even if it's just because they can.

sneak 6y ago

I will be happy when anyone in any country does it, because they will likely be paying SpaceX to perform the launches, and SpaceX, regardless of national origin, seems to be making the most progress toward a future where there is regular passenger service to the moon. I would very much like to live off of the Earth.

simion314 6y ago
I think you forget other countries have rockets too, satellites and rovers that were not launched by SpaceX. There is no more a theoretical situation that US can have a country locked our of software or hardware so larger countries would not want to have this dependency or have NSA/CIA intercept your satellites before launch and backdoor them(that is their job will be the excuse).
- sneak 6y ago
  Nobody else has reusable rockets (yet), which means that regardless of capability, it is much, much more expensive for anyone else to do an orbital launch. LEO constellations require lots of launches. This is not to say it’s impossible, just that for it to be within an order of magnitude of the cost on SpaceX, someone else needs to come up with reusability as well. I have no doubt that someone will, I just wonder about when, and if it will be in time to benefit anyone else’s presently announced LEO internet access constellations. It’s also possible that Amazon will just eat the cost of disposable rocket launches; it’s not like they couldn’t afford it if they wished.
  - simion314 6y ago
    Yes is more expensive but governments burn this kind of money all the time on military and other shit. I do not see China or India giving money to US to launch satellites from them. Private small companies will probably rent such SpaceX satelites.
    - sneak 6y ago
      Are there any planned government LEO internet access constellations that will be consumer-facing products? The only ones I’ve heard about are Starlink (first party by launching entity), OneWeb (which had to be bailed out), and Kepler (Amazon, so theoretically unlimited funding available).
      - simion314 6y ago
        I am not aware of any, it is a very niche thing though since the majority of people can be connected with cables(I know in US there are issues but in other countries if you have electricity in a remote place you can just add a internet cable on the same polls and bring cheap and fast internet to everyone). Do you honestly see China,Russia or India governments giving money to a foreign company when they have their own space programs? The governments to not min-max for short term financials and you also have on top of that the security issue to trust US.
        sneak 6y ago
        I think there will be tons of global customers for Starlink. Any cable or signal that leaves the premises has to be encrypted anyway, addressing the privacy security issue for civilians, and the military, which also has availability as a security concern already has a local/nationally-run satcom system for their use today. Satcom isn’t an issue for governments right now. It is, however, for billions of normal people who live far from population/commerce centers.