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The incentives and risks look very different in a local free trade agreement than, say, multilateral talks about What To Do About Syria. Please name some relev
by _jal 6y ago
The incentives and risks look very different in a local free trade agreement than, say, multilateral talks about What To Do About Syria.
Please name some relevant countries who might be willing to bet their internal security that a hypothetical 5 year security promise from the US would definitely be operative after year 4.
But I do hope I'm wrong. I guess we'll see.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago>Please name some relevant countries who might be willing to bet their internal security that a hypothetical 5 year security promise from the US would definitely be operative after year 4. Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Israel and everyone in NATO from Poland on west. Yes, we're going through a rough patch because the US is (rightfully) sick of playing world police at the same time as China/Russia are on the up but to think that the US and all the other regionally relevant powers (e.g. NATO members for Europe) wouldn't retaliate against an attempt to annex territories in any of those countries is crazy. Also Panama and Egypt (who both have critical global shipping lanes) don't really have to worry about their sovereignty being violated by any nation that the first world would expect to restrict access to their shipping lanes.
- _jal 6y agoWhat does Taiwan have to do with Syria? If we're going to discuss this, let's not play "Goalposts? What are those?"
- throwaway0a5e 6y agoYou said: >Please name some relevant countries who might be willing to bet their internal security that a hypothetical 5 year security promise from the US would definitely be operative after year 4 I deem Taiwan to be a "relevant country" due to their relevance to the technology industry.
- eropple 6y ago> the US is (rightfully) sick of playing world police That is not a reasonable description of the current situation unless you think that the guy whose party commands a thunderous minority but wins (both the Presidency and the Senate) due to electoral bugs gets to say what we, as Americans, are and are not "sick of".
- anonbclibtards 6y ago> due to electoral bugs Electoral College is a bug when Democrats lose, got it. If both candidates campaigned knowing that the popular vote was the deciding factor, we would have seen different campaign strategies and there's no way of knowing the winner. Both sides knew the rules going in, Hillary lost, by a lot.
- bobthechef 6y agoIndeed, world police is the role any international hegemon plays to secure trade routes and stability. But I wouldn't discredit the idea entirely. NATO does have its requirements and few members chip in their fair share. Furthermore, geopolitical interests are shifting and this fact may be politically useful. Right now, for example, the US, Germany/EU, and Russia are fighting over influence in the central European states with Poland at the helm. Shifting military presence eastward strengthens American influence, blocks Russian meddling, and frustrates German/EU power in the region, though the last is trying to make the US dominance work for them (note Germany's interest in the American-backed Three Seas Initiative).
- i_cannot_hack 6y agoYou attempt a really weird spin when you try to attribute the rough patch to the U.S being "rightfully sick of playing world police". When the current commander in chief threatens nuclear war on Twitter and assassinates military commanders on sovereign soil. It's not really hallmarks of a laid-back foreign policy.