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>How will they determine what counts as "news"? the same way that they decide who to pay.

• Ajedi32 6y ago
  As previously stated above, that method is explicitly disallowed by the law: > Responsible digital platform corporations may not discriminate between the news businesses participating in the code, or between participants and non-participants, because of their participation in the code. https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/Exposure%20Draft%20EM%20-%20NEWS%20MEDIA%20AND%20DIGITAL%20PLATFORMS%20MANDATORY%20BARGAINING%20CODE%20BILL%202020.pdf https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/Exposure%20Draft%20EM%2...
  • baybal2 6y ago
    The hole here for them is to not accommodate non-participants
    • Ajedi32 6y ago
      I don't get what you're trying to say. If Google stops showing news from participants, but show news from non-participants (due to false negatives causing their algorithm to fail to identify those sites as news), would that not be obvious discrimination according to the above quote?
      • syshum 6y ago
        the Grandparent is saying Google will simply stop showing all news from Australia, regardless of if the news organization is a participant or not. Thus they would not be in violation of the law as all Australia news sources would be blacklists, not just those participating
        • Ajedi32 6y ago
          That just comes back to my original comment then. How do you determine what counts as "all news"? You can't just use the list of "businesses participating in the code" because that's considered discriminatory and illegal under the new law. And if you decide using any other method, you risk accidentally classifying one of the "businesses participating in the code" as "not news" and showing it in search results anyway, which is also illegal under this law. The best solution I can think of would be to use the list of businesses participating in the code as a starting point, and then add other non-participants through some other method. But then you run into a similar problem: what happens if you accidentally classify a non-participant as "not news" and they see a surge of traffic because they're one of the only news organizations in Australia that shows up in Google search results? Wouldn't that also be considered discriminatory and illegal under the new law, since that organization wouldn't have shown up in the results if they were a participant?
          • ThrustVectoring 6y ago
            I'm fairly sure that Google already has algorithmic classification for "news" that's accurate enough for these purposes. If not, "is this a news article" is quite amenable to machine learning techniqes. All that's left is ensuring that registered news sources are definitely classified as news.