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So Germany is not deliquent on NATO payments? Or that doesn't qualify?

mschuster91 6y ago
Germany is not delinquent on NATO payments, at least not on the formally agreed-upon budget contribution of 313 million € (https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-match-us-contribution-to-nato-budget/a-51446211 https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-match-us-contribution-to-na...). The thing you (and Trump) are meaning is the total defense spending as percentage of GDP. Germany cannot be "delinquent" here by definition! Every country is legally free to spend whatever it wants on defense. The "2%"is an informal goal only, not backed by any international treaty!
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frandroid 6y ago
AFAIK there are no "NATO payments". There's just an expectation that NATO countries will spend 2% of GDP on defense, and most European countries are far behind that. Germany however has increased its spending in recent years and is getting closer to the mark. Trump just doesn't understand the geostrategic position of the U.S., where troops stationed in critical countries prevent invasions which would upturn its imperial economic order. Trump thinks the U.S. has stationed troops in SK, Germany, Taiwan for the countries' interests, where they were clearly deployed there to defend its own.
- panzagl 6y ago
  Or he has decided US interests have changed.
- jessaustin 6y ago
  International security arguments are bullshit. We spend money on weapons in order to spend money on weapons. That tiny interest is the tail that wags the entire dog of security theater throughout politics, media, and academia. If we had a democratic system we wouldn't waste so many resources on armaments. That's why the military-industrial complex destroyed our previously somewhat-democratic system.
JackFr 6y ago
There aren't "NATO payments" per se. However, it is a common defense treaty, and as such each member is expected to contribute a proportionate amount to their own military. Most recently the agreed level was 2% of GDP, which Germany has consistently fallen short of. Both Obama and Bush complained about it as well, but they both had a reasonable understanding of how things worked.
CathedralBorrow 6y ago
Who is receiving those NATO payments?
- nix23 6y ago
  The "defense" Industry?
celticninja 6y ago
No it is not.

Germany is not delinquent on NATO payments, at least not on the formally agreed-upon budget contribution of 313 million € (https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-match-us-contribution-to-nato-budget/a-51446211 https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-match-us-contribution-to-na...). The thing you (and Trump) are meaning is the total defense spending as percentage of GDP. Germany cannot be "delinquent" here by definition! Every country is legally free to spend whatever it wants on defense. The "2%"is an informal goal only, not backed by any international treaty!

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frandroid 6y ago

AFAIK there are no "NATO payments". There's just an expectation that NATO countries will spend 2% of GDP on defense, and most European countries are far behind that. Germany however has increased its spending in recent years and is getting closer to the mark. Trump just doesn't understand the geostrategic position of the U.S., where troops stationed in critical countries prevent invasions which would upturn its imperial economic order. Trump thinks the U.S. has stationed troops in SK, Germany, Taiwan for the countries' interests, where they were clearly deployed there to defend its own.

panzagl 6y ago
Or he has decided US interests have changed.
jessaustin 6y ago
International security arguments are bullshit. We spend money on weapons in order to spend money on weapons. That tiny interest is the tail that wags the entire dog of security theater throughout politics, media, and academia. If we had a democratic system we wouldn't waste so many resources on armaments. That's why the military-industrial complex destroyed our previously somewhat-democratic system.

JackFr 6y ago

There aren't "NATO payments" per se. However, it is a common defense treaty, and as such each member is expected to contribute a proportionate amount to their own military. Most recently the agreed level was 2% of GDP, which Germany has consistently fallen short of. Both Obama and Bush complained about it as well, but they both had a reasonable understanding of how things worked.

CathedralBorrow 6y ago

Who is receiving those NATO payments?

nix23 6y ago
The "defense" Industry?

celticninja 6y ago

No it is not.