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You do realize that high resolution video hosting and serving is about the most expensive thing you can do on the internet? Just see Vimeo's fee schedule.
by eejjjj82 6y ago
You do realize that high resolution video hosting and serving is about the most expensive thing you can do on the internet? Just see Vimeo's fee schedule.
- NelsonMinar 6y agoOne wonders if the folks in Denmark arguing about their economic rights realizes this.
- dmortin 6y agoApparently, the Danish musicians don't realize this value, thinking the platform is free to maintain if they can host videos for free there.
- alacombe 6y ago> Danish musicians I don't think Danish musicians had any choice in this decision.
- JAlexoid 6y agoCorrectamundo! This is an argument between a government sanctioned "artist association"(it's really record label manager association) and Google. No artist is part of this at all. But Danish musicians are still free to host their own music on YouTube, this argument affects only the unlicensed use of music in third party videos.
- stefan_ 6y agoAs so many things, it gets a lot cheaper once you are a monopoly. Can't very well not peer with YouTube.
- adrianN 6y agoIt's still really expensive.
- candiodari 6y agoDidn't Google brag about investing 2 billion dollars/year in just their network a few years back ?
- JAlexoid 6y agoOnly one side in this argument is a monopoly... and it's not YouTube.
- jchook 6y agoWhat about a decentralized solution like PeerTube?
- jasode 6y agoDecentralized alternatives such as PeerTube pay musicians less in ad revenue (about $0.00) than Youtube does. In other words, PeerTube doesn't provide the same benefits to musicians (audience size, recommendations discovery, ad payouts) that Youtube has. The trigger for the disagreement between Koda musicians and Google is about money payments and not about storage & bandwidth costs. PeerTube in its current incarnation is not relevant for Koda.
- boogies 6y agoAnother relatively decentralized alternative, LBRY, pays at least some YouTubers significantly more per view than YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWoZhKGQtzI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWoZhKGQtzI (this one seems to get payed about ten times as much per view).
- pmlnr 6y ago> less in ad revenue Yes, let's make music rely on the glorious ad industry as well. /s
- pmlnr 6y agoI'll never understand why music requires high res video, but is ok with a shitty mp3 stream.
- ihattendorf 6y agoBecause the number of people who can tell the difference between 480p and 1080p is much greater than the number that can tell the difference between 128kbps mp3 and 24/96 FLAC.
- riffic 6y ago128kbps sounds awful and artifacting is painfully obvious with adequate playback equipment.
- manquer 6y agoPerhaps he should have rephrased it as number of people having 4K screens and full HD on all devices they use is far higher than number of people have good audio devices
- pmlnr 6y agoEVERYONE can tell 128kbp vs FLAC if they listen even a bit. 128kbps was always bad, especially if it's an old upload. 320kbps (which is ~Spotify 'extreme') vs FLAC is a different story, you do need some reasonable (read at least a $30 soundmagic E10 in-ear, not some wunderbar looking designer latest fashion trend on-ear for $200+) equipment and some training to spot that. EDIT Also doesn't tackle the problem that most people hear music, not see it, so 480p vs 1080p for MUSIC isn't a deal breaker now, is it?
- nonbirithm 6y agoI've always wondered if 320 is supposed to be distinguishable from lossless. Like, wasn't MP3 encoded at 320kbps designed to sound like a CD, while still being compressed? If it's still possible to tell 320 from FLAC in enough circumstances, then is that a failing of 320? If so, why stop at 320? Why wouldn't there be a bitrate somewhere between 320 and uncompressed that makes it impossible for practical purposes to tell the difference between lossy and lossless?
- metalliqaz 6y agoyes, that's the subtext to my comment
- rasz 6y agoSo expensive companies pay You for people viewing the content. https://clipwatching.com/ https://clipwatching.com/