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This is how Google will collapse (2019)

29 points by partingshots 6y ago

PaulHoule 6y ago
Don't forget the failing Google cloud. It is way too "Googly" for its own good. I did a shootout of six visual recognition APIs a few years ago. I got five of them to work in under fifteen minutes. Google Cloud has an authentication system modeled after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWEvp217Tzw&feature=emb_logo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWEvp217Tzw&feature=emb_logo and took much longer, trashing my Anaconda installation along the way. (IBM Cloud sticks out because it is still sending me spam.)
- deelowe 6y ago
  GCP growth beat expectations in the recent quarterly earnings.
  - wegs 6y ago
    I'm not sure one can generalize from a pandemic economy. Macroeconomics beats microeconomics. I'd /never/ use GCP in any sort of business setting. Too high odds an automated Google algorithm would take out my business. Googley automation worked well enough for B2C, and when Google hired the best people. When Google has a mid-tier workforce, buggy algorithms, and bugs can take out entire businesses, you run into problems. Combined with the old culture of arrogance, I don't see GCP ever competing with Amazon, or even Azure.
  - basch 6y ago
    GCP includes G Suite. Earnings went up for email, office documents, and remote meetings software.
qwerty456127 6y ago
Arguably the most valuable pieces of Google are the YouTube content and GMail addresses.
- jerrygoyal 6y ago
  what about google search& Android?
  - wegs 6y ago
    Search can get eaten almost overnight. No stickiness. I switched to DDG when Google annoyed me. With Android, we're already seeing forks in China. A bit more stickiness, but not great stickiness. Ads is still a big two-sided market.
    - qwerty456127 6y ago
      > Search can get eaten almost overnight. No stickiness. I switched to DDG when Google annoyed me. And I've switched Runnaroo.com which has been presented here just some weeks ago. It already feels much better than Google. In rare cases when it fails me I fallback to DuckDuckGo. If DuckDuckGo doesn't manage either - only then I go to Google. In the majority of cases Runnaroo results are the best.
      - chris_f 6y ago
        Awesome, and thank you! I'm the creator of Runnaroo. I've actually been surprised at how willing people have been to switch default search engines. Right now I believe it is mostly early adopters and tech focused people (like here on HN) using the service, so I'm not sure if the general population will be as willing to switch to a new search engine. I personally believe they will if the service gets good enough.
        qwerty456127 6y ago
        Thank you for a great job! Keep doing it! By the way, organic economy already starts growing around Runaroo. E.g. I'm already spending thousands dollars (and I'm going to spend much more over time, and this takes place in Europe where normal salaries are not as high as in the US) on things and services I order from local non-IT companies whose web sites I've found with Runnaroo. I hope we can break the Google's monopoly and sort of divert some cash flow from bullshit SEO and spyware marketers to real people.
enlyth 6y ago
For anyone else getting a 500 error: https://web.archive.org/web/20200731131748/http://www.sfu.ca/olc/blog/engage/how-google-will-collapse https://web.archive.org/web/20200731131748/http://www.sfu.ca... (Some images seem to be missing)
- RandomBacon 6y ago
  This is one of the images that loaded for me, but not captured by archive.org. It is a line graph of global monthly active users using mobile adblocking browsers. It is supposed to be the second article image (between the two bar graphs). https://imgur.com/L0EPxOQ https://imgur.com/L0EPxOQ (Side note, can anyone suggest a better site than imgur? They are pushing mobile users to their app instead of website.)
fierarul 6y ago
Looks like the server collapsed first.
deleted 6y ago
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the_duke 6y ago
The article timestamp says 2017, not 2019.
- bassman9000 6y ago
  Disclaimers: The author owns a small number of Basic Attention Tokens (the utility token that makes Brave’s model possible). This article was updated on May 5, 2019. The original version as mentioned in Life After Google was originally in the Hacker Noon publication and can be found here.
jsnell 6y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21648060 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21648060
spideymans 6y ago
I figure that someone will inevitably come up with a viable mainstream alternative to Google Search. One that is privacy oriented, and isn’t riddled with SEO spam. One that might function very differently than the search engines we’ve known for the past 25 years. I wonder what form that might take

29 points by partingshots 6y ago

Don't forget the failing Google cloud. It is way too "Googly" for its own good. I did a shootout of six visual recognition APIs a few years ago. I got five of them to work in under fifteen minutes. Google Cloud has an authentication system modeled after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWEvp217Tzw&feature=emb_logo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWEvp217Tzw&feature=emb_logo and took much longer, trashing my Anaconda installation along the way. (IBM Cloud sticks out because it is still sending me spam.)

deelowe 6y ago
GCP growth beat expectations in the recent quarterly earnings.
- wegs 6y ago
  I'm not sure one can generalize from a pandemic economy. Macroeconomics beats microeconomics. I'd /never/ use GCP in any sort of business setting. Too high odds an automated Google algorithm would take out my business. Googley automation worked well enough for B2C, and when Google hired the best people. When Google has a mid-tier workforce, buggy algorithms, and bugs can take out entire businesses, you run into problems. Combined with the old culture of arrogance, I don't see GCP ever competing with Amazon, or even Azure.
- basch 6y ago
  GCP includes G Suite. Earnings went up for email, office documents, and remote meetings software.

qwerty456127 6y ago

Arguably the most valuable pieces of Google are the YouTube content and GMail addresses.

jerrygoyal 6y ago
what about google search& Android?
- wegs 6y ago
  Search can get eaten almost overnight. No stickiness. I switched to DDG when Google annoyed me. With Android, we're already seeing forks in China. A bit more stickiness, but not great stickiness. Ads is still a big two-sided market.
  - qwerty456127 6y ago
    > Search can get eaten almost overnight. No stickiness. I switched to DDG when Google annoyed me. And I've switched Runnaroo.com which has been presented here just some weeks ago. It already feels much better than Google. In rare cases when it fails me I fallback to DuckDuckGo. If DuckDuckGo doesn't manage either - only then I go to Google. In the majority of cases Runnaroo results are the best.
    - chris_f 6y ago
      Awesome, and thank you! I'm the creator of Runnaroo. I've actually been surprised at how willing people have been to switch default search engines. Right now I believe it is mostly early adopters and tech focused people (like here on HN) using the service, so I'm not sure if the general population will be as willing to switch to a new search engine. I personally believe they will if the service gets good enough.
      - qwerty456127 6y ago
        Thank you for a great job! Keep doing it! By the way, organic economy already starts growing around Runaroo. E.g. I'm already spending thousands dollars (and I'm going to spend much more over time, and this takes place in Europe where normal salaries are not as high as in the US) on things and services I order from local non-IT companies whose web sites I've found with Runnaroo. I hope we can break the Google's monopoly and sort of divert some cash flow from bullshit SEO and spyware marketers to real people.

enlyth 6y ago

For anyone else getting a 500 error: https://web.archive.org/web/20200731131748/http://www.sfu.ca/olc/blog/engage/how-google-will-collapse https://web.archive.org/web/20200731131748/http://www.sfu.ca... (Some images seem to be missing)

RandomBacon 6y ago
This is one of the images that loaded for me, but not captured by archive.org. It is a line graph of global monthly active users using mobile adblocking browsers. It is supposed to be the second article image (between the two bar graphs). https://imgur.com/L0EPxOQ https://imgur.com/L0EPxOQ (Side note, can anyone suggest a better site than imgur? They are pushing mobile users to their app instead of website.)

fierarul 6y ago

Looks like the server collapsed first.

deleted 6y ago

[deleted]

the_duke 6y ago

The article timestamp says 2017, not 2019.

bassman9000 6y ago
Disclaimers: The author owns a small number of Basic Attention Tokens (the utility token that makes Brave’s model possible). This article was updated on May 5, 2019. The original version as mentioned in Life After Google was originally in the Hacker Noon publication and can be found here.

jsnell 6y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21648060 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21648060

spideymans 6y ago

I figure that someone will inevitably come up with a viable mainstream alternative to Google Search. One that is privacy oriented, and isn’t riddled with SEO spam. One that might function very differently than the search engines we’ve known for the past 25 years. I wonder what form that might take