Wasn't it a Labor prime minister that called the Senate 'unrepresentative swill'? > A conservative party would fundamentally not do this. Experiences in Canad

Wasn't it a Labor prime minister that called the Senate 'unrepresentative swill'? > A conservative party would fundamentally not do this. Experiences in Canada, Austria, Finland, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand (of particular relevance to Australia), Sweden, the UK where conservatives in power had at least some if not most of their representatives vote LGBT marriage in is evidence to the contrary. Or is it that they aren't really "conservative" either by some arbitrary yardstick? And to say that they allowed its members to vote how they actually always wanted to vote (now there's a democratic deficit) within '48 hours' after delaying it for months and toddling around with a voluntary postal survey for BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS for months and months after years of intransigence is highly disingenuous.