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Exactly. Intelligence does not exist "by itself", it only exists in the context of the world. It cannot be emulated in an environment that's secluded from the w
by terryf 6y ago
Exactly. Intelligence does not exist "by itself", it only exists in the context of the world. It cannot be emulated in an environment that's secluded from the world or even in an environment that is exposed to a carefully selected slice of the world. Because the world is a tangled web of interconnections and cannot be partitioned cleanly. It's always going to be a leaky abstraction and thus any model trained within that slice is going to deviate very quickly in weird ways.
- spyder 6y agoHuh no? Intelligence is the opposite of that, it's the ability to learn the rules of new worlds. It doesn't matter if it's the real world, a simulated world or an alien world it will adapt to it.
- terryf 6y agoExactly - but if you take it from a simulated world to the real world without re-training (and it's real hard to train in the real world) it's going to behave according to the rules learned in the simulated world. Which will be different and thus produce results that are weird to us.
- devalgo 6y ago> It cannot be emulated in an environment that's secluded from the world or even in an environment that is exposed to a carefully selected slice of the world. This has always been some kind of anthropomorphic argument to me that I don't think holds. The hard problem of consciousness isn't solved and to make such bold claims like we cannot possibly create intelligence without it having full awareness of the world seems unsupported imo.