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You might check out Vivaldi, created by one of the founders of Opera Software. Has a ton of UI customization options built-in. https://vivaldi.com/ https://viv

by Klinky 6y ago

You might check out Vivaldi, created by one of the founders of Opera Software. Has a ton of UI customization options built-in. https://vivaldi.com/ https://vivaldi.com/

surround 6y ago
It’s also Chromium based
- jm4 6y ago
  But it's not owned by a Chinese company. Opera is and that makes me question how trustworthy it is. There hasn't been evidence to suggest it's not, but I'm not comfortable running it on my machines.
  - someperson 6y ago
    The term I heard recently was "distrust and verify", a modern spin on the Russian proverb "Trust, but verify" which was made famous by Ronald Reagan during the first Cold War [1]. In software industry, following the "distrust and verify" strategy makes particularly good sense. Software that is not open-source cannot be verified, so should only be used in carefully sandboxed environments. In 2020, why would anybody use a closed-source web browser? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify
    - jm4 6y ago
      I believe it was Pompeo who recently said that. It's about right for some of the things going on lately. Any software from China or Russia falls into that category for me. Some other places would too if it was more common to see mainstream software from them. I agree with you on the web browsers. Hardly anyone uses an open source browser though. Most of them have open source components mixed with closed source blobs to the point where you don't really know what it's doing. Chrome is a good example where they go as far as to scan your machine for malware, but it's not the only one.
ignoramous 6y ago
What's their business model? Got to say, the browser looks pretty slick.
- popeathlete 6y ago
  It's a great browser, as customizable as you'd expect a spiritual successor to Opera to be. Unfortunately you largely have to take their word when it comes to privacy, but they seem trustworthy enough.
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by Klinky 6y ago

You might check out Vivaldi, created by one of the founders of Opera Software. Has a ton of UI customization options built-in. https://vivaldi.com/ https://vivaldi.com/

surround 6y ago

It’s also Chromium based

jm4 6y ago
But it's not owned by a Chinese company. Opera is and that makes me question how trustworthy it is. There hasn't been evidence to suggest it's not, but I'm not comfortable running it on my machines.
- someperson 6y ago
  The term I heard recently was "distrust and verify", a modern spin on the Russian proverb "Trust, but verify" which was made famous by Ronald Reagan during the first Cold War [1]. In software industry, following the "distrust and verify" strategy makes particularly good sense. Software that is not open-source cannot be verified, so should only be used in carefully sandboxed environments. In 2020, why would anybody use a closed-source web browser? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify
  - jm4 6y ago
    I believe it was Pompeo who recently said that. It's about right for some of the things going on lately. Any software from China or Russia falls into that category for me. Some other places would too if it was more common to see mainstream software from them. I agree with you on the web browsers. Hardly anyone uses an open source browser though. Most of them have open source components mixed with closed source blobs to the point where you don't really know what it's doing. Chrome is a good example where they go as far as to scan your machine for malware, but it's not the only one.

ignoramous 6y ago

What's their business model? Got to say, the browser looks pretty slick.

popeathlete 6y ago
It's a great browser, as customizable as you'd expect a spiritual successor to Opera to be. Unfortunately you largely have to take their word when it comes to privacy, but they seem trustworthy enough.
- deleted 6y ago
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