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Its a sad day when the founder is ousted. I wonder why Vmware is in trouble. I can't imagine it is because of Greene. I think virtual machine technology has gr

Its a sad day when the founder is ousted. I wonder why Vmware is in trouble. I can't imagine it is because of Greene. I think virtual machine technology has great potential.

maximilian 18y ago
"Trouble" in the crazy stock market sense. They are not reaching "growth targets", which means she isn't pushing hard enough for growth. In reality she's probably a great boss, but just not cut out for running a public company owned by another company. I'd feel bad for her, but I'm sure she has plenty of money. She apparently loves windsurfing, so they should just move back to Hawaii and have fun. Her picture looks like she's in her 50s, so she should just retire early and have lots of fun in the sun.
- ibsulon 18y ago
  It's a recession, and a lot of companies are waiting on their capital improvements right now. This one surprises me in how impatient they're being, or there's something else going on.
- aaronblohowiak 18y ago
  Yea, being somewhat below 50% growth in sales for a year is "Trouble".
- mtw 18y ago
  projections for 2008 was +50% growth. vmware didn't manage that, but it's not a reason to oust the ceo. this is a highly political move
  - mtw 18y ago
    another article showing that vmware might have been too successful for emc's ceo http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/08/tucci_costs_vmware/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/08/tucci_costs_vmware/
babul 18y ago
Probably due to the inroads made by KVM and the like.
- aaronblohowiak 18y ago
  MS's free as in beer virtual server, perhaps?
  - gaius 18y ago
    Sun VirtualBox.
    - nailer 18y ago
      * No * No * No Those are all desktop technologies. VMware make the majority of their revenue from dedicated virtualization servers, that connect to a shared SAN, and allow VMs to be moved from one physical server to another while running. Their competitors are: * Microsoft HyperV (missed inclusion inWin2K8, but available as a seperate download - can't move VMs without downtime). Management through MMC. * RHEL Advanced Server (RHEL 5 with oVirt, a web based management tool, or Virtual Machine Manager, a shitty desktop based one. KVM/Xen is used as the engine, with a preference towards KVM. Not sure on moving VMs, know its planned but haven't payed with it much. * Citrix Xenserver * Hosted Xen, eg Amazon EC2.
      - gaius 18y ago
        Is that actually true? As far as I know, desktop virtualization (for developers and QA) is a large chunk of VMware's business, indeed it's where they got their start.
        nailer 18y ago
        Yeah. Desktop virt for developers and QA is certainly visible. Virtualized server farms, OTOH, are transparent. You could be logging into a VM and never know unless you ran dmidecode (Linux) or Get_WMIObject Vendor (Windows, IIRC). That VM could also be moving from one physical machine to another while you're logged into it. You'd never know. Last project I worked on was at a bank, with a few hundred VMs used to replicate the prod environment about 18 times. Project budget was $450M AU, about $400M US. VMware got a good chunk of that.
wmf 18y ago
VMware has been skimming the cream off the virtualization market and making enormous profit in the process, but that can't continue forever. Soon they must choose between sticking with the small but high-margin enterprise consolidation business and growing with lower margins.

Its a sad day when the founder is ousted. I wonder why Vmware is in trouble. I can't imagine it is because of Greene. I think virtual machine technology has great potential.

maximilian 18y ago

"Trouble" in the crazy stock market sense. They are not reaching "growth targets", which means she isn't pushing hard enough for growth. In reality she's probably a great boss, but just not cut out for running a public company owned by another company. I'd feel bad for her, but I'm sure she has plenty of money. She apparently loves windsurfing, so they should just move back to Hawaii and have fun. Her picture looks like she's in her 50s, so she should just retire early and have lots of fun in the sun.

ibsulon 18y ago
It's a recession, and a lot of companies are waiting on their capital improvements right now. This one surprises me in how impatient they're being, or there's something else going on.
aaronblohowiak 18y ago
Yea, being somewhat below 50% growth in sales for a year is "Trouble".
mtw 18y ago
projections for 2008 was +50% growth. vmware didn't manage that, but it's not a reason to oust the ceo. this is a highly political move
- mtw 18y ago
  another article showing that vmware might have been too successful for emc's ceo http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/08/tucci_costs_vmware/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/08/tucci_costs_vmware/

babul 18y ago

Probably due to the inroads made by KVM and the like.

aaronblohowiak 18y ago
MS's free as in beer virtual server, perhaps?
- gaius 18y ago
  Sun VirtualBox.
  - nailer 18y ago
    * No * No * No Those are all desktop technologies. VMware make the majority of their revenue from dedicated virtualization servers, that connect to a shared SAN, and allow VMs to be moved from one physical server to another while running. Their competitors are: * Microsoft HyperV (missed inclusion inWin2K8, but available as a seperate download - can't move VMs without downtime). Management through MMC. * RHEL Advanced Server (RHEL 5 with oVirt, a web based management tool, or Virtual Machine Manager, a shitty desktop based one. KVM/Xen is used as the engine, with a preference towards KVM. Not sure on moving VMs, know its planned but haven't payed with it much. * Citrix Xenserver * Hosted Xen, eg Amazon EC2.
    - gaius 18y ago
      Is that actually true? As far as I know, desktop virtualization (for developers and QA) is a large chunk of VMware's business, indeed it's where they got their start.
      - nailer 18y ago
        Yeah. Desktop virt for developers and QA is certainly visible. Virtualized server farms, OTOH, are transparent. You could be logging into a VM and never know unless you ran dmidecode (Linux) or Get_WMIObject Vendor (Windows, IIRC). That VM could also be moving from one physical machine to another while you're logged into it. You'd never know. Last project I worked on was at a bank, with a few hundred VMs used to replicate the prod environment about 18 times. Project budget was $450M AU, about $400M US. VMware got a good chunk of that.

wmf 18y ago

VMware has been skimming the cream off the virtualization market and making enormous profit in the process, but that can't continue forever. Soon they must choose between sticking with the small but high-margin enterprise consolidation business and growing with lower margins.