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> Okay: so it seems like they're assuming irresponsible and wasteful behavior on behalf of drip-coffee makers. Not to mention it ignores the other ways of cons

by gen3 6y ago

> Okay: so it seems like they're assuming irresponsible and wasteful behavior on behalf of drip-coffee makers. Not to mention it ignores the other ways of consuming coffee, such as pour-over or French press.

softwaredoug 6y ago
I think they are saying that in those cases, you'll likely boil a whole pot of water, which takes a lot of energy compared to flash-heating just the water needed. I didn't see a comparison to automatic espresso machines, which I would assume would be similar in energy/water use to a capsule maker, but without the capsule waste.
- dragontamer 6y ago
  The last time I made hot coffee for myself, I microwaved one cup of water, then used a pour over. But again, I normally Cold Brew. That's room temperature for 24 hours, which is less bitter than hot brewing. In this cold Brew case, I don't use any energy heating the water. I guess I use fridge space but I don't think additional items in the fridge contributes to energy usage... ---------- I got coworkers who prefer a french press. I don't think they microwave much more than one cup of water.
- gambiting 6y ago
  I make all of my coffee in a mokka pot, every morning - so it boils exactly as much water as fits in my mug, nothing more. And it doesn't consume any materials, the whole thing is stainless steel with a rubber gasket which I just rinse under the tap after every use.
  - blaser-waffle 6y ago
    Aye, same here. Rubber gaskets last a long time, too. I've replaced them once in 5 years. You can get a 3-pack off of Amazon for like ~$8 bucks or less. Don't have to boil tons of water, not tossing out anything except grounds, and generally get a better coffee than via drip. As as of the grounds: I have an old coffee tin, one of the big ole "chock fulla nuts" ones, that I put the old grounds in. Eventually they end up in a compost pile outside, with all of my veggie choppings and lawn clippings.
    - dragontamer 6y ago
      > As as of the grounds: I have an old coffee tin, one of the big ole "chock fulla nuts" ones, that I put the old grounds in. Eventually they end up in a compost pile outside, with all of my veggie choppings and lawn clippings. I don't have a yard, so I can't compost. But it should be noted that coffee grounds are one of the most ideal items to compost. Most people's compost piles are Carbon-heavy, but Coffee Grounds are (just slightly) nitrogen-heavy. So with a mix of some carbon-heavy items (paper, leaves, etc. etc.) you're all set.

by gen3 6y ago

softwaredoug 6y ago

I think they are saying that in those cases, you'll likely boil a whole pot of water, which takes a lot of energy compared to flash-heating just the water needed. I didn't see a comparison to automatic espresso machines, which I would assume would be similar in energy/water use to a capsule maker, but without the capsule waste.

dragontamer 6y ago
The last time I made hot coffee for myself, I microwaved one cup of water, then used a pour over. But again, I normally Cold Brew. That's room temperature for 24 hours, which is less bitter than hot brewing. In this cold Brew case, I don't use any energy heating the water. I guess I use fridge space but I don't think additional items in the fridge contributes to energy usage... ---------- I got coworkers who prefer a french press. I don't think they microwave much more than one cup of water.
gambiting 6y ago
I make all of my coffee in a mokka pot, every morning - so it boils exactly as much water as fits in my mug, nothing more. And it doesn't consume any materials, the whole thing is stainless steel with a rubber gasket which I just rinse under the tap after every use.
- blaser-waffle 6y ago
  Aye, same here. Rubber gaskets last a long time, too. I've replaced them once in 5 years. You can get a 3-pack off of Amazon for like ~$8 bucks or less. Don't have to boil tons of water, not tossing out anything except grounds, and generally get a better coffee than via drip. As as of the grounds: I have an old coffee tin, one of the big ole "chock fulla nuts" ones, that I put the old grounds in. Eventually they end up in a compost pile outside, with all of my veggie choppings and lawn clippings.
  - dragontamer 6y ago
    > As as of the grounds: I have an old coffee tin, one of the big ole "chock fulla nuts" ones, that I put the old grounds in. Eventually they end up in a compost pile outside, with all of my veggie choppings and lawn clippings. I don't have a yard, so I can't compost. But it should be noted that coffee grounds are one of the most ideal items to compost. Most people's compost piles are Carbon-heavy, but Coffee Grounds are (just slightly) nitrogen-heavy. So with a mix of some carbon-heavy items (paper, leaves, etc. etc.) you're all set.