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Oh, you mean tenure? UBI is a general thing for the whole population, and not something just for scientists. Tenure is in general a good, as long as scientists
by kebman 6y ago
Oh, you mean tenure? UBI is a general thing for the whole population, and not something just for scientists. Tenure is in general a good, as long as scientists keep working, and there are some controls keeping them producing at least "something". And let's face it, most of them do. This is great, because it releaves scientists of pressure, which means more of them can be creative in their research, which actually speeds up discoveries. This is also a valid approach within tech and IT btw. But it should be said that it has a very poor track record outside of these knowledge-heavy professions.
On the other hand, if you really think UBI is a good solution, then I'm afraid you don't know how an economy really works.
- searchableguy 6y agoYeah, I meant something like tenure but less restricted for anyone doing research. > On the other hand, if you really think UBI is a good solution, then I'm afraid you don't know how an economy really works. Could you elaborate more?
- kebman 6y agoIt has been discussed to death, but for the sake of argument, let's review these two completely opposing factions, who both agree that UBI doesn't work: Zero Hedge on why UBI doesn't work: https://safehaven.com/markets/economy/Why-Universal-Basic-Income-Wont-Work.html https://safehaven.com/markets/economy/Why-Universal-Basic-In... The Guardian on why UBI doesn't work: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/06/universal-basic-income-public-realm-poverty-inequality https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/06/univer...
- cousin_it 6y agoYour second link mentions "universal basic services", I always supported that idea but didn't know it had a name. It's better than UBI because it sidesteps the problem of cost disease (landlords raising rents in response, etc).
- kebman 6y agoWhy not go for the original idea, and go straight for Communism instead?
- mattkrause 6y agoI think they mean something like UBI: non- or less-competitive grants that would fund modest-sized projects (or pilot studies for larger ones). Tenure doesn't really help with this problem in the lab sciences. While it lets faculty members keep their jobs, it usually doesn't come with enough funding to do experimental work. In fact, while you can "keep" a tenured position without grants, many places find ways to...discourage that (move your office to a shoebox in the sub-basement, crappy teaching and service assignments).