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If an account is created and posts a single comment that lots of people downvote it, that wouldn't send their profile to (and beyond) -12? (Generally speaking,

by corin_ 6y ago

If an account is created and posts a single comment that lots of people downvote it, that wouldn't send their profile to (and beyond) -12? (Generally speaking, I know the user discussed has commented more than once.)

sokoloff 6y ago
Based on some of my comments that have been nuked from orbit, I thought there was a per-comment score limit of -3 (so a net -4) for karma scoring purposes.
- walterbell 6y ago
  A comment goes near-invisible at -3 or -4, so most individuals won't read it or downvote further. A motivated brigade can still keep downvoting, e.g. more than 20 downvotes on a single comment. Brigade downvoting could incentivize future self-censorship. But it's also a strong signal for the Streisand effect, which can be surfaced by a bot and reposted elsewhere.
  - DanBC 6y ago
    Here's a link from dang. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18152047 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18152047 > HN's software puts a floor of -4 on downvoted comments.
    - walterbell 6y ago
      Has that always been the case, or was that added in recent years? I've seen more than 4 downvotes on a comment in approx 2015 era. It was noticeable because it wasn't about the comment content, but all my comments on one story were being downvoted. By the time it stopped an hour or two later, total karma was down more than 40 points. Good to see there is now a floor on downvotes.
      - corin_ 6y ago
        Yeah it was definitely the case back when you could see other people's comment scores that there were often examples far lower than -4. Don't know when the change was made, this subject has made me notice just how long ago I first joined HN and the last time I thought about how the voting works was definitely years ago.
rapnie 6y ago
OT: In that same comment thread is also a banned user (first time I saw this) where I'm surprised they still have a positive karma count, given the absolute toxic comments this user (troll really) has been giving for months. Edit: Maybe shadow-banned for the most part of 3 months.

by corin_ 6y ago

sokoloff 6y ago

Based on some of my comments that have been nuked from orbit, I thought there was a per-comment score limit of -3 (so a net -4) for karma scoring purposes.

walterbell 6y ago
A comment goes near-invisible at -3 or -4, so most individuals won't read it or downvote further. A motivated brigade can still keep downvoting, e.g. more than 20 downvotes on a single comment. Brigade downvoting could incentivize future self-censorship. But it's also a strong signal for the Streisand effect, which can be surfaced by a bot and reposted elsewhere.
- DanBC 6y ago
  Here's a link from dang. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18152047 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18152047 > HN's software puts a floor of -4 on downvoted comments.
  - walterbell 6y ago
    Has that always been the case, or was that added in recent years? I've seen more than 4 downvotes on a comment in approx 2015 era. It was noticeable because it wasn't about the comment content, but all my comments on one story were being downvoted. By the time it stopped an hour or two later, total karma was down more than 40 points. Good to see there is now a floor on downvotes.
    - corin_ 6y ago
      Yeah it was definitely the case back when you could see other people's comment scores that there were often examples far lower than -4. Don't know when the change was made, this subject has made me notice just how long ago I first joined HN and the last time I thought about how the voting works was definitely years ago.

rapnie 6y ago

OT: In that same comment thread is also a banned user (first time I saw this) where I'm surprised they still have a positive karma count, given the absolute toxic comments this user (troll really) has been giving for months. Edit: Maybe shadow-banned for the most part of 3 months.