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> after a bit of an ear bashing you actually helped them? Hang up, charge your emergency hour consultant rates, and tell them you're available once they sign
by wheelerwj 6y ago
> after a bit of an ear bashing
you actually helped them? Hang up, charge your emergency hour consultant rates, and tell them you're available once they sign the agreement.
- DoubleGlazing 6y agoThat's what my wife told me as soon as I got home. If it ever happens again that's what I'll do.
- WrtCdEvrydy 6y agoI've actually done worse to a bad employer... I picked up the phone, said my name, and as soon as they dropped that, I said "Oh, he's dead" and hung up. My former boss sent me a text later going "Very mature, but very funny" Edit: Boss was the only one who had his head on straight
- wincy 6y agoI know a woman who did this but to credit collection agencies. One day the police showed up at work and arrested her for fraud. Obviously not the same thing as you had no contractual obligation to them, but telling everyone you’re dead is generally a bad practice.
- WrtCdEvrydy 6y agoThat's a good point, but these guys just wanted me to help them unfuck what they fucked up.
- jedberg 6y agoI would help. The people who are suffering the most are your former coworkers. Presumably friends. Definitely people you may work with in the future. I'd rather be known as the guy who helps than the guy who is rude about consulting rates.
- DoubleGlazing 6y agoThat would cross my mind. Most potential employers I've encountered have usually asked for references from my last two jobs. On another occasion I had to undergo a background check which involved contacting my last 15 years worth of employers. So no matter how much I may have disliked an employer I would be unwilling to burn bridges until I knew I would never need to rely on them again.
- ghaff 6y agoEven if they're being a bit unreasonable, the momentary satisfaction of telling them to F Off is probably not worth the risk of it coming back to bite you some day.
- frobozz 6y agoIf you don't want to tell them to F Off for this reason, you can contact their line manager, HR or customer service department and ask them to do it for you. The kind of person to lay into you like this is not going to give you a glowing reference whatever you do.
- ghaff 6y agoThat is probably true. What I meant is that I would simply break off the conversation at that point. And, yes, if they kept pursuing it, I would either contact their manager if I had a good relationship or have HR tell them to knock it off.
- brightball 6y agoIf you run into one of those where you don't have a choice, the best phrasing I've found to explain why I left was "hostile work environment." I had one of those for about a year and leaving after just over a year was a question I got used to answering.
- citiguy 6y ago
- mrpotato 6y agoWhat would I bingle for if I was looking for a template for such an agreement/contract? It seems like the kind of thing you would want to have prepared in advance (in case of emergency, break glass).
- MrLeap 6y agoI use a statement of work template.
- Wistar 6y agoYes! In my experience a well-crafted SOW is key to the practical understanding between client and contractor. Good SOW language is clearer and, IMO, psychologically less daunting to negotiate than contract language. The SOW provides a roadmap not just for the project but for the writing of the actual contract.
- brightball 6y agoExactly. When people treat you that way, you politely say "If you want my help, change your tone." If they don't, hang up.