> Or they may eat farm-to-table and shop at local farmers' markets. On the other side, step into any Wal-Mart or dollar store, and almost everything there was m

> Or they may eat farm-to-table and shop at local farmers' markets. On the other side, step into any Wal-Mart or dollar store, and almost everything there was manufactured and shipped from Asian continent. Good point. Rich people who live environmentally sustainable lives are not the problem, in this context. I don't have a problem with them being rewarded. The way I look at it is, right now, even if you want to reduce your emissions, it's really hard to know how to get the biggest bang for your buck. Should I get a new fuel-efficient car, or drive this one until it dies so as to avoid the emissions of manufacturing a new car? Should I swap out my gas stove for an electric one? Etc. Adding a carbon tax is almost like magic, in how it piggybacks on all the normal price optimizations we do every day. The prices will change to reflect the environmental cost, so you don't even have to try to change your behavior, you'll just adjust naturally. > How does it work with fossil fuels refined in Middle East and delivered to China? I should clarify, it taxes fossil fuels produced in America or imported into America. It doesn't solve the problem for the whole world -- if only it were that easy. But it does solve one half of the problem where the US and China can point at each other and claim that the other one should make the first move while the problem gets worse and worse. The USA isn't the biggest polluter per capita, nor the biggest in absolute terms, but it's pretty high up on both, and we've been contributing to the problem for a LONG time. > The first thing that happened after California approved driver licenses for undocumented aliens is that used car sales surged and public transport dropped (LAMTA and Metrolink specifically). For a lot of lower-income customers buying the car was aspirational and signified the rite of passage. In their price segment they're not typically shopping EVs either. So... all I get out of that is that people who are not allowed to drive drive less than people who are allowed to. I don't think that is evidence that poor people take public transport less than rich people. Anyway, we can debate arbitrary points like this, but it's pretty clear from studies that emissions go up as income goes up. See: https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/07/14/1922205117 https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/07/14/1922205117 or https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/publication/income-inequality-and-carbon-consumption-evidence-from-environmental-engel-curves/ https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/publication/income-i... That's what matters -- since poor people tend to contribute less in terms of emissions, they will benefit from a carbon tax and dividend, overall.