People absolutely do not agree on what "logic" is. Just ask people. Hell, to some people, it's nothing more than "I'm right." >I don't really get the point. T

People absolutely do not agree on what "logic" is. Just ask people. Hell, to some people, it's nothing more than "I'm right." >I don't really get the point. The point is that it doesn't matter if people in general don't know that the word means, which is why I didn't refer to "people" but classification systems designed by and for people trying to understand political ideologies and orientations. The term "liberal" has definite specific meanings that correspond relatively narrowly. > something I've never encountered. Then you've never asked regular people what logic is or haven't noticed that their answers differ widely and hardly correspond to what philosophers and mathematicians mean. Nevertheless, the laity's ignorance does not dilute the meaning of the term.