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The fact that that is even a thought screams silly and childish in my mind, but then again life has taught me that 'maturity' really is a social construct and t

The fact that that is even a thought screams silly and childish in my mind, but then again life has taught me that 'maturity' really is a social construct and the rule of law and contracts really should be the only baseline expectation of human behavior from strangers. Also - that plotline from SV where he just buys pizza from thd pizza startup that is operating at a loss seems like the same idea as this but just slightly different. Business is funny

munk-a 6y ago
It's a bit different when a company is completely voluntarily engaging in self-destructive behavior - when it comes to the app store it is voluntary that folks post their apps there but Apple has an absolute monopoly on the market.
- RobRivera 6y ago
  That nuance makes a major difference for sure in the situation. Mind I'm not rationalizing any behavior from either party. It's more an observation on the state of current affairs and how we've allowed it to come to this.
  - munk-a 6y ago
    Oh it's absolutely terrifying - I just think it's important to highlight that in this situation there's a large power inbalance that doesn't exist in the SV example. It's likely most developers didn't walk into having an App knowing how this weird refund rule worked, so for most folks (if this is an issue) you've got the sunk cost of building the app already and have the choice of 1) putting up with Apple's arbitrary rules or 2) unlisting your app from the store and accepting that you'll never see another dime off your labour.
- incelmods 6y ago
  that's kind of like saying walmart has a monopoly on who sells what at walmart. you can buy your same exact plastic garbage can at target instead, so there is no monopoly. just you can buy the same app for a non-apple phone. so there is no monopoly on the apps. now as far as what you sell within your own store, digital or brick store - that's not a market. in fact, the same apps on google's store have a much larger marked due to many more users. and amazon's store. and aptoide. and a whole bunch of other stores, which all sell the same app. so not only does apple not have a monopoly, they have a small share of the app market for the apps they sell in their store.

munk-a 6y ago

It's a bit different when a company is completely voluntarily engaging in self-destructive behavior - when it comes to the app store it is voluntary that folks post their apps there but Apple has an absolute monopoly on the market.

RobRivera 6y ago
That nuance makes a major difference for sure in the situation. Mind I'm not rationalizing any behavior from either party. It's more an observation on the state of current affairs and how we've allowed it to come to this.
- munk-a 6y ago
  Oh it's absolutely terrifying - I just think it's important to highlight that in this situation there's a large power inbalance that doesn't exist in the SV example. It's likely most developers didn't walk into having an App knowing how this weird refund rule worked, so for most folks (if this is an issue) you've got the sunk cost of building the app already and have the choice of 1) putting up with Apple's arbitrary rules or 2) unlisting your app from the store and accepting that you'll never see another dime off your labour.
incelmods 6y ago
that's kind of like saying walmart has a monopoly on who sells what at walmart. you can buy your same exact plastic garbage can at target instead, so there is no monopoly. just you can buy the same app for a non-apple phone. so there is no monopoly on the apps. now as far as what you sell within your own store, digital or brick store - that's not a market. in fact, the same apps on google's store have a much larger marked due to many more users. and amazon's store. and aptoide. and a whole bunch of other stores, which all sell the same app. so not only does apple not have a monopoly, they have a small share of the app market for the apps they sell in their store.