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It seems like a pretty clear duopoly to me, Apple and Android are the only two mobile platforms, and rather than compete with each other on price they are just

by lacker 6y ago

It seems like a pretty clear duopoly to me, Apple and Android are the only two mobile platforms, and rather than compete with each other on price they are just both leaving their cut at 30%. Personally it’s not even the 30% I mind so much as, maybe there are cool new products like new mobile browsers that are just forbidden by the app stores and so we will never get them.

ryanlol 6y ago
Amazon appstore, F-droid, Huawei app store, Samsung Galaxy Apps and so on.
- mcherm 6y ago
  What is the market share of those? Ideally measured two ways: in downloads and in dollars.
  - Spivak 6y ago
    You can’t claim poor market share as evidence. If iOS and the Play Store are “good enough” for people to not seek alternatives, and for devs to still publish apps, then 30% might not be a big enough cut.
- kilo_bravo_3 6y ago
  None of those matter. Neither does the fact that you can buy a Linux phone, today. The people downvoting you just want to punish the wicked. It's like the digital content distribution discussions where even a single inconvenience or a perceived lack of value is met with "YARR ME MATEY SAIL THE SEVEN SEAS". When you point out that all of this (waves hand) is an optional luxury and if they want open culture they can choose to consume open (and public domain) culture you are looked at like you are a goblin and downvoted. They don't care about open culture they just want to punish music and film distributors. If they did care about open culture they would only consume culture that had been voluntarily released as free and open. There is plenty of creative commons, public domain, open source, and other free content for them to consume but they want the good stuff. They don't care about competitive app stores they just want to punish the app store owners. If they did care about open app stores they would all buy the PinePhone and support developers on that platform MAKING MINOR PERSONAL SACRIFICES until it was a success. But the people downvoting you don't care and will tie themselves into knots and find every hollow and vapid excuse why you are wrong and they are right.

by lacker 6y ago

ryanlol 6y ago

Amazon appstore, F-droid, Huawei app store, Samsung Galaxy Apps and so on.

mcherm 6y ago
What is the market share of those? Ideally measured two ways: in downloads and in dollars.
- Spivak 6y ago
  You can’t claim poor market share as evidence. If iOS and the Play Store are “good enough” for people to not seek alternatives, and for devs to still publish apps, then 30% might not be a big enough cut.
kilo_bravo_3 6y ago
None of those matter. Neither does the fact that you can buy a Linux phone, today. The people downvoting you just want to punish the wicked. It's like the digital content distribution discussions where even a single inconvenience or a perceived lack of value is met with "YARR ME MATEY SAIL THE SEVEN SEAS". When you point out that all of this (waves hand) is an optional luxury and if they want open culture they can choose to consume open (and public domain) culture you are looked at like you are a goblin and downvoted. They don't care about open culture they just want to punish music and film distributors. If they did care about open culture they would only consume culture that had been voluntarily released as free and open. There is plenty of creative commons, public domain, open source, and other free content for them to consume but they want the good stuff. They don't care about competitive app stores they just want to punish the app store owners. If they did care about open app stores they would all buy the PinePhone and support developers on that platform MAKING MINOR PERSONAL SACRIFICES until it was a success. But the people downvoting you don't care and will tie themselves into knots and find every hollow and vapid excuse why you are wrong and they are right.