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> You might balk at SSDs being mere commodities Why would I balk at that? SSDs, screens, RAM, CPUs, GPUs, laptops, phones, and are all commodities. I don't car

> You might balk at SSDs being mere commodities Why would I balk at that? SSDs, screens, RAM, CPUs, GPUs, laptops, phones, and are all commodities. I don't care about any of them past their specs and build quality. > Samsung + Huawei -> Google Oh come on. That's some serious reaching to prove your point right there.

walterbell 6y ago
Not in the slightest. Samsung tried to launch products that were rejected by Google via OEM licensing. Their commercial offerings are subject to external rules.
- esperent 6y ago
  Every company's products are subject to external rules. All these huge companies constantly fight in court over trademarks, intellectual property, and so on. The products were not "rejected by Google", they were rejected by a court somewhere. And Google are at the receiving end of many such cases themselves, in many jurisdictions: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_vs._Google https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_vs._Google https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_v._Oracle_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_v._Oracle_America
  - walterbell 6y ago
    Some products don't reach the stage of a public lawsuit, i.e. their fate is determined during private negotiations.
zodiac 6y ago
Really? I own a Huawei and AFAICT, the OS / services (eg the kernel, android, Google play services) are basically the same as what would run on eg a Google pixel.
asveikau 6y ago
>> > Samsung + Huawei -> Google > Oh come on. That's some serious reaching to prove your point right there. On the software front it's right on the mark though. Those devices wouldn't be much without Google. I know that Samsung in particular has had some other platforms (Bada? Tizen?) to try to break that dependency, but correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think it's been successful. AFAIK Google also has some kind of hardware requirements posed on the OEMs, so they influence hardware design this way.

walterbell 6y ago

Not in the slightest. Samsung tried to launch products that were rejected by Google via OEM licensing. Their commercial offerings are subject to external rules.

esperent 6y ago
Every company's products are subject to external rules. All these huge companies constantly fight in court over trademarks, intellectual property, and so on. The products were not "rejected by Google", they were rejected by a court somewhere. And Google are at the receiving end of many such cases themselves, in many jurisdictions: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_vs._Google https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_vs._Google https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_v._Oracle_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_v._Oracle_America
- walterbell 6y ago
  Some products don't reach the stage of a public lawsuit, i.e. their fate is determined during private negotiations.

zodiac 6y ago

Really? I own a Huawei and AFAICT, the OS / services (eg the kernel, android, Google play services) are basically the same as what would run on eg a Google pixel.

asveikau 6y ago

>> > Samsung + Huawei -> Google > Oh come on. That's some serious reaching to prove your point right there. On the software front it's right on the mark though. Those devices wouldn't be much without Google. I know that Samsung in particular has had some other platforms (Bada? Tizen?) to try to break that dependency, but correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think it's been successful. AFAIK Google also has some kind of hardware requirements posed on the OEMs, so they influence hardware design this way.