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Using a poll from the Verge to validate your opinion that people like tech companies...sorry, that’s a no from me. You discount that the vast majority of peopl

Using a poll from the Verge to validate your opinion that people like tech companies...sorry, that’s a no from me. You discount that the vast majority of people are completely ignorant of how computers and the internet actually function. They have no idea or, because of their ignorance, do not care that companies such as Google are hovering up all their data and doing who know what with it. Or that large monopolies are wielding more power than any entity has ever possessed. Or that social media is being weaponized by domestic and foreign parties. Or that they are acting as arbiters as to what is and what is not science. I love tech but Facebook, Google, and Twitter are tearing society apart. Twitter and Facebook aren’t even special as far as code goes. Let’s just create open source social media to remove the advertising aspect and kill Facebook and Twitter completely. These sort of companies should NEVER be publicly traded FFS.

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hrhrhrd 6y ago
Mastodon already exists; it's just unpopular outside of small circles. People have already spoken with their time that they prefer hosted, "easy" solutions regardless of the evil they perpetuate (even if this preference is coming from a place of ignorance). The biggest question now is how to popularise it.
- single_source 6y ago
  I just tried Mastodon yesterday. I was highly unimpressed with the on-boarding funnel and confusing UX. I think one point people miss is, the social media market is highly competitive. All it takes is for Twitter's UX and on-boarding funnel to be 1% better than Mastodon's for Twitter to win. Someone needs to provide decentralized social media platform without leaking the decentralization into the UX and on-boarding funnel and I've yet to see anyone do that to date.* *I'm still looking so if anyone has anything for me to check out I'd be thrilled!
- CincinnatiMan 6y ago
  I looked into Mastodon a bit but didn't quite understand it and saw clusters/servers for fringe groups that I didn't really want to be associated with.
- suizi 6y ago
  Mastodon leads to centralisation. If a Mastodon server shuts down one day and everyone on it loses their accounts, they're likely to gather around one centralised set of servers. There is a circle of trust too. For instance, the servers a server can trust not to propagate spam or content they dislike. This raises the barrier to entry and makes existing servers suspicious of any new servers which pop up. The centralised option can also afford lawyers to deal with issues which inevitably crop up especially in the post-230 world we're headed towards.
twblalock 6y ago
> These sort of companies should NEVER be publicly traded FFS. At least public companies are accountable to shareholders. Private companies are not accountable to anyone. > Twitter and Facebook aren’t even special as far as code goes. You underestimate how hard it is to operate at their scale.
- yuhong 6y ago
  There is already a shareholder lawsuit over Twitter: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16398789/in-re-twitter-inc-securities-litigation/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16398789/in-re-twitter-... The hearing on the motion to dismiss is on October 13 if you want to attend.

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hrhrhrd 6y ago

Mastodon already exists; it's just unpopular outside of small circles. People have already spoken with their time that they prefer hosted, "easy" solutions regardless of the evil they perpetuate (even if this preference is coming from a place of ignorance). The biggest question now is how to popularise it.

single_source 6y ago
I just tried Mastodon yesterday. I was highly unimpressed with the on-boarding funnel and confusing UX. I think one point people miss is, the social media market is highly competitive. All it takes is for Twitter's UX and on-boarding funnel to be 1% better than Mastodon's for Twitter to win. Someone needs to provide decentralized social media platform without leaking the decentralization into the UX and on-boarding funnel and I've yet to see anyone do that to date.* *I'm still looking so if anyone has anything for me to check out I'd be thrilled!
CincinnatiMan 6y ago
I looked into Mastodon a bit but didn't quite understand it and saw clusters/servers for fringe groups that I didn't really want to be associated with.
suizi 6y ago
Mastodon leads to centralisation. If a Mastodon server shuts down one day and everyone on it loses their accounts, they're likely to gather around one centralised set of servers. There is a circle of trust too. For instance, the servers a server can trust not to propagate spam or content they dislike. This raises the barrier to entry and makes existing servers suspicious of any new servers which pop up. The centralised option can also afford lawyers to deal with issues which inevitably crop up especially in the post-230 world we're headed towards.

twblalock 6y ago

> These sort of companies should NEVER be publicly traded FFS. At least public companies are accountable to shareholders. Private companies are not accountable to anyone. > Twitter and Facebook aren’t even special as far as code goes. You underestimate how hard it is to operate at their scale.

yuhong 6y ago
There is already a shareholder lawsuit over Twitter: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16398789/in-re-twitter-inc-securities-litigation/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16398789/in-re-twitter-... The hearing on the motion to dismiss is on October 13 if you want to attend.