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I really doubt Tiktok's founder has that sort of leverage/power over the Chinese government. The current Chinese regime makes rational decisions, I doubt they'l

I really doubt Tiktok's founder has that sort of leverage/power over the Chinese government. The current Chinese regime makes rational decisions, I doubt they'll think banning Tesla and Apple in order to protect Tiktok is worth it from a cost/value ratio point of view. Huawei is way more valuable to the Chinese government, and they didn't ban US companies in retaliation either.

rydre 6y ago
TikTok will serve the purpose to Chinese government that Hollywood served for America's elite. It's worth every penny for softpower.
- eunos 6y ago
  Nah there is a quite huge gap between Douyin (Chinese Tiktok) and Tiktok itself. I once out of curiosity browsed Douyin. Peculiarly, they are rather hostile with attempts to bring TikTok trends into their platform, and they showed their contempt quite clearly. Side note: Douyin features are way ahead of TikTok. e.g. https://youtu.be/yyeO7EUciIQ https://youtu.be/yyeO7EUciIQ
mmm_grayons 6y ago
> they didn't ban US companies in retaliation either That's probably because they've already been banning American companies for years if they posed any potential thread to Communist control.
- FooBarWidget 6y ago
  You mean, as opposed to other countries, where entities that threaten to overthrow their governments are allowed to continue to operate?
  - stale2002 6y ago
    Look if you think it is justified for China to keep out foreign companies, fine. But if that is your opinion then don't come crying to the rest of the world, when they do the same exact thing to Chinese corporations that China has been doing to others, for decades. Fair is fair.
    - FooBarWidget 6y ago
      I don't have an opinion on whether or not it is justified. I just think that the statement I replied to, is a very weird one. One reason being the leap of logic. And frankly I doubt the correctness of the statement altogether. There are a ton of American companies operating in China, much more than the number of banned ones. How many US companies does China really ban? What all these comments about 'fairness' also don't mention is that under the WTO rules, developing nations (which China officially is) are allowed to take protectionist measures.
      - stale2002 6y ago
        > There are a ton of American companies operating in China There are huge restrictions by China in American corporations. You should look this up, if you are unfamiliar. It is well accepted that there are many more restrictions, in comparison to say if an American corporation wanted to enter the EU market or something. This is common knowledge, and it is easy to look this stuff up. > are allowed to take protectionist measures. And America is allowed to retaliate against them. China can do what they want, but if they come crying to everyone else when other countries retaliate, nobody should expect others to take such complaints seriously.
  - 3FBD4FDE 6y ago
    Which US companies have been banned for threatening to overthrow the PRC?

rydre 6y ago

TikTok will serve the purpose to Chinese government that Hollywood served for America's elite. It's worth every penny for softpower.

eunos 6y ago
Nah there is a quite huge gap between Douyin (Chinese Tiktok) and Tiktok itself. I once out of curiosity browsed Douyin. Peculiarly, they are rather hostile with attempts to bring TikTok trends into their platform, and they showed their contempt quite clearly. Side note: Douyin features are way ahead of TikTok. e.g. https://youtu.be/yyeO7EUciIQ https://youtu.be/yyeO7EUciIQ

mmm_grayons 6y ago

> they didn't ban US companies in retaliation either That's probably because they've already been banning American companies for years if they posed any potential thread to Communist control.

FooBarWidget 6y ago
You mean, as opposed to other countries, where entities that threaten to overthrow their governments are allowed to continue to operate?
- stale2002 6y ago
  Look if you think it is justified for China to keep out foreign companies, fine. But if that is your opinion then don't come crying to the rest of the world, when they do the same exact thing to Chinese corporations that China has been doing to others, for decades. Fair is fair.
  - FooBarWidget 6y ago
    I don't have an opinion on whether or not it is justified. I just think that the statement I replied to, is a very weird one. One reason being the leap of logic. And frankly I doubt the correctness of the statement altogether. There are a ton of American companies operating in China, much more than the number of banned ones. How many US companies does China really ban? What all these comments about 'fairness' also don't mention is that under the WTO rules, developing nations (which China officially is) are allowed to take protectionist measures.
    - stale2002 6y ago
      > There are a ton of American companies operating in China There are huge restrictions by China in American corporations. You should look this up, if you are unfamiliar. It is well accepted that there are many more restrictions, in comparison to say if an American corporation wanted to enter the EU market or something. This is common knowledge, and it is easy to look this stuff up. > are allowed to take protectionist measures. And America is allowed to retaliate against them. China can do what they want, but if they come crying to everyone else when other countries retaliate, nobody should expect others to take such complaints seriously.
- 3FBD4FDE 6y ago
  Which US companies have been banned for threatening to overthrow the PRC?