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Thanks for the reply. I'm sure as a writer it's frustrating to get glib replies so apologies. I read your article late last night so didn't give it the time it

Thanks for the reply. I'm sure as a writer it's frustrating to get glib replies so apologies. I read your article late last night so didn't give it the time it deserved. I re-read it this morning and it gave me a lot to think about. I think the mall is such a uniquely American phenomenon. As you write about, it's been the community center for so many normal people in the past and those times are changing. In the homogeneous country I'm from, that place used to be the church, now it's probably the pub. In the US, while there are many churches, they don't seem to be the place where people meet across communities - that was the mall. What we have in common is that whether it's the US, or where I'm from, these communities are dividing and moving online and it's worrying. Having the liberal elite come in an sneer doesn't help, in fact it's a symptom of the issue. The liberal elite (which I guess I'm a part of) are the ones least affected by this fraction and division and the ones most easily able to pay their way out. Thanks for writing.

zel_cole 6y ago
Well - glib repliers are still readers, so I can't complain :). I agree with what you say and sympathize with that struggle to maintain public spaces. I imagine COVID threatened the pubs' position as well. The cultural/economic elite are, like you say, cushioned somewhat from this. For example, a membership to "The Wing" in NYC or other expensive social clubs provides that physical space based in a shared identity. In my town, an area that was once a thriving arts district with inexpensive warehouse spaces for galleries, co-ops, etc. has been replaced with numerous luxury hotels and housing/businesses that cater to well-off students. I'm left wondering how we can create popular alternatives that provide the basis for social cohesion. Re: the mall, if people can't at least have a place to bump into each other in line or sit at the food court together, I worry we'll continue along a bad path. I work in parks and recreation so I gravitate to public parks as a solution. They're places where it's normal to strike up a conversation with a stranger, there's no pressure to spend money and so on. There's been a conflict here over a restaurant and apartment/business complex being built into our main downtown park, drawing criticism that the park is effectively being privatized. Obviously I'm not a social scientist, these are things I'm exploring from my perspective while watching a city change over the years. But COVID especially has me thinking about how we will rebuild public life and avoid an existence where we are connected primarily by social media and understanding life through the superficial aesthetic/media categorizations it fosters.

zel_cole 6y ago

Well - glib repliers are still readers, so I can't complain :). I agree with what you say and sympathize with that struggle to maintain public spaces. I imagine COVID threatened the pubs' position as well. The cultural/economic elite are, like you say, cushioned somewhat from this. For example, a membership to "The Wing" in NYC or other expensive social clubs provides that physical space based in a shared identity. In my town, an area that was once a thriving arts district with inexpensive warehouse spaces for galleries, co-ops, etc. has been replaced with numerous luxury hotels and housing/businesses that cater to well-off students. I'm left wondering how we can create popular alternatives that provide the basis for social cohesion. Re: the mall, if people can't at least have a place to bump into each other in line or sit at the food court together, I worry we'll continue along a bad path. I work in parks and recreation so I gravitate to public parks as a solution. They're places where it's normal to strike up a conversation with a stranger, there's no pressure to spend money and so on. There's been a conflict here over a restaurant and apartment/business complex being built into our main downtown park, drawing criticism that the park is effectively being privatized. Obviously I'm not a social scientist, these are things I'm exploring from my perspective while watching a city change over the years. But COVID especially has me thinking about how we will rebuild public life and avoid an existence where we are connected primarily by social media and understanding life through the superficial aesthetic/media categorizations it fosters.