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Good for them. I daily drive an AMD Hackintosh (3900X) and the price to performance ratio of this chip is excellent. More broadly, consumers are real winners w

Good for them. I daily drive an AMD Hackintosh (3900X) and the price to performance ratio of this chip is excellent. More broadly, consumers are real winners with this zen-powered competition of the last few years. Intel first dropped prices aggressively and now with them shaking up the tech org it seems likely the two companies will have to fight one another for consumer dollars for years to come.

andy_ppp 6y ago
Tempting... Does it crash at all? How is upgrading for security updates?
- tdiggity 6y ago
  No crashes, security updates work. AMD Hackintoshes are solid.
  - tachion 6y ago
    They are "solid" in the context of hackintosh community (not to mention non-Intel hackintoshes are considered to be less solid and more risky even by the community). I would dare to say they are not solid in the understanding and expectations of anyone else, and I'm saying that from a perspective of hackintosh user, one of the most recommended "golden builds" with components carefully selected to be as close to real Mac as possible. And it is still full of issues, intermittent, persistent, every OS update is a stress, every Clover/drivers update is a stress and risk and so on. Yet, for a hackintosh, it is solid. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone and I regret spending money on it ;)
    - rubber_duck 6y ago
      Is your workflow OSX specific ? I switched to MBP and OSX 2 years ago for iOS development but OSX has been getting slower and slower with each update. And I'm running a 15" i9 with 32gb ram and Vega 20 - I see noticeable UI lag on my 5k monitor with native lightweight apps (eg resizing telegram/WhatsApp), Chrome is getting slower and Firefox is no champ either. I recently booted to win 10 bootcamp for some game and was shocked at how much smoother the experience was. Need to do some benchmarking but just running VS code and docker felt noticeably faster on win 10 - same machine - and Macs have terrible windows drivers
      - mjayhn 6y ago
        I've spent the last 3 months slowly trying to move to WSL/WSL2 on the weekend and the experience has been really bad IMO. Right now I'm in some state where I somehow deleted my Ubuntu WSL vm and nothing I do will get it to reinstall so that I can use WSL again. I'm so sick of dealing with this OS. It actually reminds me of trying to get my hackintosh to work and wasting an entire weekend testing different .kexts before I could even get to doing the actual work I wanted to do (code). With that said Catalina/Mojave have been insanely buggy and I'm dying for a middle ground between osx and windows that isn't linux. I wish cocoa was opensourced. But at least on my 16" mbp I can open it, maybe have sound not work, docker/windowserve/kernel-task consume all of my memory for no reason and have to restart it every few days but I can usually just open it and code and not worry about breaking ancillary stuff that takes me a day or three to fix.
      - tachion 6y ago
        I think I could say my workflow isn't Mac OS specific, but for my own use, I think it is. I require 1st class Unix userland tools (which WSL isn't), fast native terminal (which nothing on Windows and most on Linux aren't) and due to me not being 20 anymore, an OS that "Just Works" (which Linux isn't for sure and Windows most often isn't either) that doesn't actively spy on me (which Windows does) and runs on a well made hardware (which Mac OS does only on Apple machines). I've talked about that at lengths, feel free to check my comments, for me Mac OS is the only viable OS right now.
    - tdiggity 6y ago
      You should give openCore a try. Everyone seems to have a better experience with that now. I was surprised at how easy it was compared to clover. Don’t be the first to update to a new 10.x.y release, but even the latest 10.15.x releases became compatible pretty quickly. My system is very stable (“solid”). My usecase is web development and occasional Xcode, so ymmv.
bhtru 6y ago
Haven't looked into Hackintoshes for a while. Surprised to read that AMD chips are compatible now. Nice.
pjmlp 6y ago
Good luck with Apple Silicon.
- tim-- 6y ago
  Apple will still support Intel for the next five years, if not longer. I'm not sure if this is a problem for today.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    Obviously it is not a problem for today, nor during the transition phase. Afterwards those red Fiats with Ferrari stickers won't do anymore.
    - coolspot 6y ago
      Hackintosh is actually more like a Ferrari with a FIAT sticker, performance-wise.
Tepix 6y ago
What are the things that don't work? Does power management work? Suspend/resume? Audio? Thunderbolt? Multiple monitors?
- mrgreenfur 6y ago
  Sleep is pretty tough to get working, but some folks have managed recently; wifi works with a compatible card; facetime/imessage all works flawlessly; lots more info at amd-osx.com

andy_ppp 6y ago

Tempting... Does it crash at all? How is upgrading for security updates?

tdiggity 6y ago
No crashes, security updates work. AMD Hackintoshes are solid.
- tachion 6y ago
  They are "solid" in the context of hackintosh community (not to mention non-Intel hackintoshes are considered to be less solid and more risky even by the community). I would dare to say they are not solid in the understanding and expectations of anyone else, and I'm saying that from a perspective of hackintosh user, one of the most recommended "golden builds" with components carefully selected to be as close to real Mac as possible. And it is still full of issues, intermittent, persistent, every OS update is a stress, every Clover/drivers update is a stress and risk and so on. Yet, for a hackintosh, it is solid. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone and I regret spending money on it ;)
  - rubber_duck 6y ago
    Is your workflow OSX specific ? I switched to MBP and OSX 2 years ago for iOS development but OSX has been getting slower and slower with each update. And I'm running a 15" i9 with 32gb ram and Vega 20 - I see noticeable UI lag on my 5k monitor with native lightweight apps (eg resizing telegram/WhatsApp), Chrome is getting slower and Firefox is no champ either. I recently booted to win 10 bootcamp for some game and was shocked at how much smoother the experience was. Need to do some benchmarking but just running VS code and docker felt noticeably faster on win 10 - same machine - and Macs have terrible windows drivers
    - mjayhn 6y ago
      I've spent the last 3 months slowly trying to move to WSL/WSL2 on the weekend and the experience has been really bad IMO. Right now I'm in some state where I somehow deleted my Ubuntu WSL vm and nothing I do will get it to reinstall so that I can use WSL again. I'm so sick of dealing with this OS. It actually reminds me of trying to get my hackintosh to work and wasting an entire weekend testing different .kexts before I could even get to doing the actual work I wanted to do (code). With that said Catalina/Mojave have been insanely buggy and I'm dying for a middle ground between osx and windows that isn't linux. I wish cocoa was opensourced. But at least on my 16" mbp I can open it, maybe have sound not work, docker/windowserve/kernel-task consume all of my memory for no reason and have to restart it every few days but I can usually just open it and code and not worry about breaking ancillary stuff that takes me a day or three to fix.
    - tachion 6y ago
      I think I could say my workflow isn't Mac OS specific, but for my own use, I think it is. I require 1st class Unix userland tools (which WSL isn't), fast native terminal (which nothing on Windows and most on Linux aren't) and due to me not being 20 anymore, an OS that "Just Works" (which Linux isn't for sure and Windows most often isn't either) that doesn't actively spy on me (which Windows does) and runs on a well made hardware (which Mac OS does only on Apple machines). I've talked about that at lengths, feel free to check my comments, for me Mac OS is the only viable OS right now.
  - tdiggity 6y ago
    You should give openCore a try. Everyone seems to have a better experience with that now. I was surprised at how easy it was compared to clover. Don’t be the first to update to a new 10.x.y release, but even the latest 10.15.x releases became compatible pretty quickly. My system is very stable (“solid”). My usecase is web development and occasional Xcode, so ymmv.

bhtru 6y ago

Haven't looked into Hackintoshes for a while. Surprised to read that AMD chips are compatible now. Nice.

pjmlp 6y ago

Good luck with Apple Silicon.

tim-- 6y ago
Apple will still support Intel for the next five years, if not longer. I'm not sure if this is a problem for today.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Obviously it is not a problem for today, nor during the transition phase. Afterwards those red Fiats with Ferrari stickers won't do anymore.
  - coolspot 6y ago
    Hackintosh is actually more like a Ferrari with a FIAT sticker, performance-wise.

Tepix 6y ago

What are the things that don't work? Does power management work? Suspend/resume? Audio? Thunderbolt? Multiple monitors?

mrgreenfur 6y ago
Sleep is pretty tough to get working, but some folks have managed recently; wifi works with a compatible card; facetime/imessage all works flawlessly; lots more info at amd-osx.com