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Don't you believe that it's also possible that there are sometimes methods that do outperform all others in the long term for everyone (such as phonics) but can

Don't you believe that it's also possible that there are sometimes methods that do outperform all others in the long term for everyone (such as phonics) but can initially be harder than other ways (such as three-cueing)? So all _you_ see as a teacher in the little time you get with a pupil who doesn't learn as well is that the phonics isn't "working for them" and that three-cueing is "just how this person learns," but really you're just teaching them an inferior shortcut which leads to worse outcomes.

watwut 6y ago
If you learned to read and continued to read few years later, it does not matter what method you used initially. After few years you are remembering how most common words look like and instantly "know" them.
- mixmastamyk 6y ago
  If you don't have skills to aquire new words, you may get thru elementary but have a very hard time in hs and uni.
- insickness 6y ago
  This is exactly the point that the article is trying to dispel. If you learn to read in an improper way, such as 3-cue, you could carry that with you and struggle all your life.
crazygringo 6y ago
Nope, I don't believe so. In the long term we're all dead, and students need to be learning and staying motivated every day. Remember, phonics gives immediate improvements too, for short words. So it's pretty much a false dichotomy. For students who are picking up phonics quickly from the start, great. For the students who are struggling from the start, try other methods ASAP. As a teacher, figuring out which methods work for a student isn't rocket science. Your students are either getting better on a visible daily basis or not. We're not talking a 5% difference in outcomes, it's more like 75% difference. (Of course, bad teachers just don't pay attention at all, or are too swamped with work to be able to.)

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Don't you believe that it's also possible that there are sometimes methods that do outperform all others in the long term for everyone (such as phonics) but can

by DangitBobby 6y ago

watwut 6y ago
If you learned to read and continued to read few years later, it does not matter what method you used initially. After few years you are remembering how most common words look like and instantly "know" them.
- mixmastamyk 6y ago
  If you don't have skills to aquire new words, you may get thru elementary but have a very hard time in hs and uni.
- insickness 6y ago
  This is exactly the point that the article is trying to dispel. If you learn to read in an improper way, such as 3-cue, you could carry that with you and struggle all your life.
crazygringo 6y ago
Nope, I don't believe so. In the long term we're all dead, and students need to be learning and staying motivated every day. Remember, phonics gives immediate improvements too, for short words. So it's pretty much a false dichotomy. For students who are picking up phonics quickly from the start, great. For the students who are struggling from the start, try other methods ASAP. As a teacher, figuring out which methods work for a student isn't rocket science. Your students are either getting better on a visible daily basis or not. We're not talking a 5% difference in outcomes, it's more like 75% difference. (Of course, bad teachers just don't pay attention at all, or are too swamped with work to be able to.)