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They don't gas detainees, that's seriously unfounded. That's a lot of money, but still not enough to cope with demand. Not to mention there's constant pressure

They don't gas detainees, that's seriously unfounded. That's a lot of money, but still not enough to cope with demand. Not to mention there's constant pressure to reduce the budget just like because functionally under US law these people are considered criminals, and people would rather that be spent on Americans instead.

eat_veggies 6y ago
https://www.insider.com/report-detention-centers-use-disinfectant-causing-bleeding-and-pain-2020-6 https://www.insider.com/report-detention-centers-use-disinfe... https://takano.house.gov/newsroom/press-releases/rep-takano-and-rep-vargas-send-letter-to-ice-acting-director-on-reports-of-improper-use-of-toxic-chemicals-to-mitigate-spread-of-covid-19 https://takano.house.gov/newsroom/press-releases/rep-takano-... https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a33042eb078691c386e7bce/t/5ecd29d03bbee218edf9a67d/1590503888290/Toxic+Exposure+of+People+in+ICE+Detention+at+Adelanto+to+Hazardous+Chemicals.pdf https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a33042eb078691c386e7... https://www.newsweek.com/over-250000-sign-petition-stop-ice-using-powerful-disinfectant-detainees-allegedly-suffer-1508326 https://www.newsweek.com/over-250000-sign-petition-stop-ice-... > Two advocacy organizations have filed a complaint alleging that Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center is using a COVID-19 disinfectant on the facility over 50 times a day. > The report, drafted by Inland Coalition for Immigrant Justice and Freedom for Immigrants, states employees at the Adelanto Detention Center in California are spraying HDQ Neutral — which manufacturer Spartan Chemical warns can be harmful as it can cause skin burns and serious eye damage when inhaled — in poorly ventilated areas filled with detainees. Many people detained by ICE are US citizens: https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-citizens-ice-20180427-htmlstory.html https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-citizens-ice-20180... Please note that Jews in Nazi Germany were considered criminals by law as well, and Zyklon B was for "delousing" living quarters. And I'm sure when IBM was manufacturing punch cards for the Nazis, they didn't want to make any rash, politically motivated decisions either.
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- throwaway45349 6y ago
  Thank you for the links - you've opened my mind a bit here. I still don't think that's necessarily worthy of the word "gassing" given we're in a global pandemic and people aren't being murdered. > Please note that Jews in Nazi Germany were considered criminals by law as well The Jews in Nazi Germany were criminals because byzantine laws were created to justify their arrest. Detaining trespassers has been a crime in every nation in history. What would you prefer to happen? - Increase the ICE budget and not take away their resources (GitHub, AWS, and all the other boycotts), causing the conditions to be _even worse_. - Abolish ICE and let potentially thousands of un-vetted people out into the country. People who could have criminal background.

eat_veggies 6y ago

https://www.insider.com/report-detention-centers-use-disinfectant-causing-bleeding-and-pain-2020-6 https://www.insider.com/report-detention-centers-use-disinfe... https://takano.house.gov/newsroom/press-releases/rep-takano-and-rep-vargas-send-letter-to-ice-acting-director-on-reports-of-improper-use-of-toxic-chemicals-to-mitigate-spread-of-covid-19 https://takano.house.gov/newsroom/press-releases/rep-takano-... https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a33042eb078691c386e7bce/t/5ecd29d03bbee218edf9a67d/1590503888290/Toxic+Exposure+of+People+in+ICE+Detention+at+Adelanto+to+Hazardous+Chemicals.pdf https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a33042eb078691c386e7... https://www.newsweek.com/over-250000-sign-petition-stop-ice-using-powerful-disinfectant-detainees-allegedly-suffer-1508326 https://www.newsweek.com/over-250000-sign-petition-stop-ice-... > Two advocacy organizations have filed a complaint alleging that Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center is using a COVID-19 disinfectant on the facility over 50 times a day. > The report, drafted by Inland Coalition for Immigrant Justice and Freedom for Immigrants, states employees at the Adelanto Detention Center in California are spraying HDQ Neutral — which manufacturer Spartan Chemical warns can be harmful as it can cause skin burns and serious eye damage when inhaled — in poorly ventilated areas filled with detainees. Many people detained by ICE are US citizens: https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-citizens-ice-20180427-htmlstory.html https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-citizens-ice-20180... Please note that Jews in Nazi Germany were considered criminals by law as well, and Zyklon B was for "delousing" living quarters. And I'm sure when IBM was manufacturing punch cards for the Nazis, they didn't want to make any rash, politically motivated decisions either.

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throwaway45349 6y ago
Thank you for the links - you've opened my mind a bit here. I still don't think that's necessarily worthy of the word "gassing" given we're in a global pandemic and people aren't being murdered. > Please note that Jews in Nazi Germany were considered criminals by law as well The Jews in Nazi Germany were criminals because byzantine laws were created to justify their arrest. Detaining trespassers has been a crime in every nation in history. What would you prefer to happen? - Increase the ICE budget and not take away their resources (GitHub, AWS, and all the other boycotts), causing the conditions to be _even worse_. - Abolish ICE and let potentially thousands of un-vetted people out into the country. People who could have criminal background.