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> The attention mechanism is quadratic cost in the number of input symbols. Restricting it to a tiny alphabet would radically blow up the model cost, so it's di
by nmfisher 6y ago
> The attention mechanism is quadratic cost in the number of input symbols. Restricting it to a tiny alphabet would radically blow up the model cost, so it's difficult to make an apples to apples comparison.
That's ultimately my point. If an alphabet-based model can't achieve nearly the same results as a BPE-based model (even if appropriately scaled up to accommodate the expanded cost), doesn't that suggest that Transformers really are just a neat memorization hack?
> Sure you could, you could look up and copy it which is an ability GPT-3 also needs to model if its to successfully learn from the internet where people do that all the time. :)
That's right - but then we're just talking about memorization and regurgitation. Sure, it's impressive when done on a large scale, but is it really a research direction worth throwing millions of dollars at?
> I'm sure people working on transformers would _prefer_ to not have it remember everything for a window (and instead spend those resource costs elsewhere), but it's necessary that the attention mechanism be differentiable for training, and that excludes obvious constructions.
Of course, but all of my whinging about Transformers is a roundabout way of saying "I'm not convinced that the One True AI will unquestionably use some variant of differentiation/backpropagation".
- nullc 6y ago> nmfisher 1 day ago [–] > The attention mechanism is quadratic cost in the number of input symbols. Restricting it to a tiny alphabet would radically blow up the model cost, so it's difficult to make an apples to apples comparison. That's ultimately my point. If an alphabet-based model can't achieve nearly the same results as a BPE-based model (even if appropriately scaled up to accommodate the expanded cost), doesn't that suggest that Transformers really are just a neat memorization hack? BPE's aren't even words for the most part. Are all native Chinese authors non-conscious memorization hacks? :)