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If the Wales or Scotland (to say nothing of the united island of Ireland) can field rugby teams in Six Nations, why cant the Iroquois field a team?

twic 6y ago
AIUI, the lacrosse equivalent of the Six Nations is the World Lacrosse Championship, where the Iroquois fielded a team - as did the Scots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Lacrosse_Championship#Participating_Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Lacrosse_Championsh... The Iroquois beat the Scots 14–7. The World Games is sort of the Olympics' El Ocho - a competition between national teams in sports that aren't quite big enough to be in the Olympics. As such, they follow the Olympics' principles for recognising entrants, which require entrants to be states, rather than just nations (mostly [1]). Hence, neither the Iroquois nor the Scots get to enter a team of their own (in Olympic rugby sevens, Scots are part of the GB team). So, the Iroquois don't get to enter a team in the World Games, despite inventing the sport. The Scots don't get to enter a golf team for the Olympics either. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Olympians_at_the_Olympic_Games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Olympians_at_the_O... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Taipei_at_the_Olympics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Taipei_at_the_Olympics
- dundarious 6y ago
  The whole island of Ireland plays in the Rugby World Cup as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_at_the_Rugby_World_Cup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_at_the_Rugby_World_Cup I wouldn't know if the relevant World Lacross bodies are modeled on the Olympics or not, but other models certainly exist.
wmgries 6y ago
This is a fantastic point. The commentary about the passports is really a sideshow: if other nations that are part of a larger state are allowed to participate, so should the Iroquois.

twic 6y ago

AIUI, the lacrosse equivalent of the Six Nations is the World Lacrosse Championship, where the Iroquois fielded a team - as did the Scots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Lacrosse_Championship#Participating_Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Lacrosse_Championsh... The Iroquois beat the Scots 14–7. The World Games is sort of the Olympics' El Ocho - a competition between national teams in sports that aren't quite big enough to be in the Olympics. As such, they follow the Olympics' principles for recognising entrants, which require entrants to be states, rather than just nations (mostly [1]). Hence, neither the Iroquois nor the Scots get to enter a team of their own (in Olympic rugby sevens, Scots are part of the GB team). So, the Iroquois don't get to enter a team in the World Games, despite inventing the sport. The Scots don't get to enter a golf team for the Olympics either. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Olympians_at_the_Olympic_Games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Olympians_at_the_O... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Taipei_at_the_Olympics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Taipei_at_the_Olympics

dundarious 6y ago
The whole island of Ireland plays in the Rugby World Cup as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_at_the_Rugby_World_Cup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_at_the_Rugby_World_Cup I wouldn't know if the relevant World Lacross bodies are modeled on the Olympics or not, but other models certainly exist.

wmgries 6y ago

This is a fantastic point. The commentary about the passports is really a sideshow: if other nations that are part of a larger state are allowed to participate, so should the Iroquois.