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Floyd went from walking around, talking, and apparently able to breathe with no problems, to dead, during the first ~5 minutes that Chauvin's knee was on his ne

Floyd went from walking around, talking, and apparently able to breathe with no problems, to dead, during the first ~5 minutes that Chauvin's knee was on his neck. Is your claim that Chauvin's actions had nothing at all to do with his death - that he simply died of an overdose by coincidence at that time, and that it would have been equally likely that he dropped dead during the five-minute period before Chauvin showed up? That would make for a hell of a coincidence. Also, 19 ng/mL of methamphetamine isn't a therapeutically active concentration - it's not even enough to trigger a positive drug test [0]. And 11 ng/mL of fentanyl is on the low end of the range recommended for anaesthesia [1] - that same source states that "[b]lood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved," but no other substances were present at high enough concentrations to be therapeutically active. It's possible that Chauvin's actions wouldn't have killed him if he hadn't had fentanyl in his system, but that's not a defense [2]. [0] https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/8257 https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Int... [1] https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/drug-profiles/fentanyl#pharmacology https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/drug-profiles/fent... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull

it 6y ago
> that he simply died of an overdose by coincidence at that time, and that it would have been equally likely that he dropped dead during the five-minute period before Chauvin showed up I'm saying that's a real possibility that is suggested by the county autopsy. Thank you for the additional context on the drug levels. If you are right about this, then I am not sure how to explain what happened. The neck restraint is described as "Compressing one or both sides of person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway", consistent with the county's autopsy finding of "no injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngealstructures". See page 9 of http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12951-TKL/Exhibit67807072020.pdf http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases.... Here are some more details about what happened. Have a look starting at page 15. http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12951-TKL/Memorandum07072020.pdf http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases...
Amezarak 6y ago
> Floyd went from walking around, talking, and apparently able to breathe with no problems, According to the bodycam camera transcripts, Floyd first said that he couldn't breathe well before he was on the ground. Floyd then requests to lay on the ground and the officers okay it, and then Chauvin attempts to restrain him on the ground. https://www.twincities.com/2020/07/09/george-floyd-transcript-read-it-in-full-here/ https://www.twincities.com/2020/07/09/george-floyd-transcrip...

it 6y ago

> that he simply died of an overdose by coincidence at that time, and that it would have been equally likely that he dropped dead during the five-minute period before Chauvin showed up I'm saying that's a real possibility that is suggested by the county autopsy. Thank you for the additional context on the drug levels. If you are right about this, then I am not sure how to explain what happened. The neck restraint is described as "Compressing one or both sides of person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway", consistent with the county's autopsy finding of "no injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngealstructures". See page 9 of http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12951-TKL/Exhibit67807072020.pdf http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases.... Here are some more details about what happened. Have a look starting at page 15. http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12951-TKL/Memorandum07072020.pdf http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases...

Amezarak 6y ago

> Floyd went from walking around, talking, and apparently able to breathe with no problems, According to the bodycam camera transcripts, Floyd first said that he couldn't breathe well before he was on the ground. Floyd then requests to lay on the ground and the officers okay it, and then Chauvin attempts to restrain him on the ground. https://www.twincities.com/2020/07/09/george-floyd-transcript-read-it-in-full-here/ https://www.twincities.com/2020/07/09/george-floyd-transcrip...