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> What an absurd sense of entitlement. You're not entitled to travel anywhere on earth despite your utopian dreams. How ironic that you're calling me entitled,

> What an absurd sense of entitlement. You're not entitled to travel anywhere on earth despite your utopian dreams. How ironic that you're calling me entitled, and then in the same breath you tell me that my freedom of movement must abide by your personal opinions regarding freedom. You'd make a great grunt soldier in the North Korean regime. You can trap your citizens in their country, and tell them they're "entitled" for wanting to leave and pursue their "utopian dreams". What a stupid comment.

DuskStar 6y ago
I think no one should be trapped within their country because their country won't let them leave. Being trapped because no one wants to take you is a very different situation.
- JSavageOne 6y ago
  I don't think anyone should be denied entry to a country if they're willing to undergo a 2 week quarantine at their own expense.
- bromuro 6y ago
  Well most of the people in the world are locked into their countries. This is just crying for a privilege lost for a short amount of time. Yet for a foreigner must be difficult to be locked in the US. I’d freak out.
ciarannolan 6y ago
Ad hominem all you want, but you're playing word games. > How ironic that you're calling me entitled, and then in the same breath you tell me that my freedom of movement must abide by your personal opinions regarding freedom. If not letting certain people into my country, to use my resources, is telling you that you must abide by my "personal opinions regarding freedom", then guilty as charged. Until we receive passport protocols from on high, that's what we're stuck with. It's incredibly entitled to say "gee I feel like living in _____, they must let me do as I please." It's not entitled to say "lol no."
- JSavageOne 6y ago
  Right so you believe in closed borders, travel bans, visa applications, passports, etc etc. I get it. You'd love Trump. We can disagree on this issue, but don't tell me I'm "entitled" for saying that from a moral perspective, the concept of restricting one's international movement based on their nationality is ridiculous, especially if they don't actually live in their home country anymore. I don't know if you actually read the article, but it is extremely humiliating that the passport lottery giving you a passport from the wrong country makes any attempt to leave your country a nightmare. Hopefully now with COVID more Americans can empathize with this, and we can get rid of this border/via/passport nonsense.
  - ciarannolan 6y ago
    Yes, I believe in "closed borders, travel bans, visa applications, [and] passports [...]". I don't know what else "etc etc" entails though. Is it possible that I believe in those things and find Trump repulsive? Look through my comments and tell me if you think I "love Trump". Another swing and miss at ad hominem instead of a legitimate argument. > We can disagree on this issue, but don't tell me I'm "entitled" for saying that from a moral perspective, the concept of restricting one's international movement based on their nationality is ridiculous, especially if they don't actually live in their home country anymore. I think it's entitlement to believe you are owed access to another person's homeland for no reason other than the fact that you're a person. By what right are you entitled to live in and enjoy the benefits of a country and society that someone else has built? In my opinion you have no natural right to this whatsoever. >[...] we can get rid of this border/via/passport nonsense. Thankfully this will never happen. You can bet the farm on it.

DuskStar 6y ago

I think no one should be trapped within their country because their country won't let them leave. Being trapped because no one wants to take you is a very different situation.

JSavageOne 6y ago
I don't think anyone should be denied entry to a country if they're willing to undergo a 2 week quarantine at their own expense.
bromuro 6y ago
Well most of the people in the world are locked into their countries. This is just crying for a privilege lost for a short amount of time. Yet for a foreigner must be difficult to be locked in the US. I’d freak out.

ciarannolan 6y ago

Ad hominem all you want, but you're playing word games. > How ironic that you're calling me entitled, and then in the same breath you tell me that my freedom of movement must abide by your personal opinions regarding freedom. If not letting certain people into my country, to use my resources, is telling you that you must abide by my "personal opinions regarding freedom", then guilty as charged. Until we receive passport protocols from on high, that's what we're stuck with. It's incredibly entitled to say "gee I feel like living in _____, they must let me do as I please." It's not entitled to say "lol no."

JSavageOne 6y ago
Right so you believe in closed borders, travel bans, visa applications, passports, etc etc. I get it. You'd love Trump. We can disagree on this issue, but don't tell me I'm "entitled" for saying that from a moral perspective, the concept of restricting one's international movement based on their nationality is ridiculous, especially if they don't actually live in their home country anymore. I don't know if you actually read the article, but it is extremely humiliating that the passport lottery giving you a passport from the wrong country makes any attempt to leave your country a nightmare. Hopefully now with COVID more Americans can empathize with this, and we can get rid of this border/via/passport nonsense.
- ciarannolan 6y ago
  Yes, I believe in "closed borders, travel bans, visa applications, [and] passports [...]". I don't know what else "etc etc" entails though. Is it possible that I believe in those things and find Trump repulsive? Look through my comments and tell me if you think I "love Trump". Another swing and miss at ad hominem instead of a legitimate argument. > We can disagree on this issue, but don't tell me I'm "entitled" for saying that from a moral perspective, the concept of restricting one's international movement based on their nationality is ridiculous, especially if they don't actually live in their home country anymore. I think it's entitlement to believe you are owed access to another person's homeland for no reason other than the fact that you're a person. By what right are you entitled to live in and enjoy the benefits of a country and society that someone else has built? In my opinion you have no natural right to this whatsoever. >[...] we can get rid of this border/via/passport nonsense. Thankfully this will never happen. You can bet the farm on it.