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Do you have a source on that? As far as I'm aware that is illegal. States can require quarantine periods for visitors, but I don't think they can outright ban

by slg 6y ago

Do you have a source on that? As far as I'm aware that is illegal. States can require quarantine periods for visitors, but I don't think they can outright ban travel from US citizens/nationals.

wl 6y ago
A 14-day quarantine upon return effectively bans many people from traveling.
- happytoexplain 6y ago
  A reasonable argument, but unfortunately using exaggerated words as a rhetorical tactic. It's unreasonable to simply say "you can't get in" or "you're effectively banned from traveling". What you and the grandparent mean is that a two week quarantine makes it impractical or effectively impossible for some people to travel between the states in question. (Assuming this is what the grandparent was referring to, which we still don't know).
votepaunchy 6y ago
I'm not sure that is quite right either. It's not just visitors, anyone traveling to or from the marked region must quarantine. A local citizen returning home must be treated the same as a visitor traveling from another state.
- slg 6y ago
  I was speaking specifically about the most stringent rules they can have for visitors, but you are exactly right that the rules apply to everyone and not exclusively visitors.
kube-system 6y ago
I don't think it is the case anywhere currently, but earlier on in the pandemic there was at least one place that put up checkpoints and turned away visitors. Example: https://www.obxtoday.com/coronavirus/updated-dare-county-restricts-visitor-access-to-outer-banks-clarifies-entry-procedure-for-non-resident-workers/ https://www.obxtoday.com/coronavirus/updated-dare-county-res...
- slg 6y ago
  Just because a government did it doesn't mean it is legal. It seems like that county was quickly sued and had to change its policy.[1][2] I am guessing this restriction wouldn't hold up in court, but you would actually have to get them to court to force them to stop. And the bigger the entity and the more people impacted, the quicker they would end up in court. [1] - https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article241852551.html https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article241852551.htm... [2] - https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article244033667.html https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article2440336...
  - kube-system 6y ago
    Yeah for sure, I was just sharing the example. There's a lot of executive actions testing the bounds of the law currently.

by slg 6y ago

Do you have a source on that? As far as I'm aware that is illegal. States can require quarantine periods for visitors, but I don't think they can outright ban travel from US citizens/nationals.

wl 6y ago

A 14-day quarantine upon return effectively bans many people from traveling.

happytoexplain 6y ago
A reasonable argument, but unfortunately using exaggerated words as a rhetorical tactic. It's unreasonable to simply say "you can't get in" or "you're effectively banned from traveling". What you and the grandparent mean is that a two week quarantine makes it impractical or effectively impossible for some people to travel between the states in question. (Assuming this is what the grandparent was referring to, which we still don't know).

votepaunchy 6y ago

I'm not sure that is quite right either. It's not just visitors, anyone traveling to or from the marked region must quarantine. A local citizen returning home must be treated the same as a visitor traveling from another state.

slg 6y ago
I was speaking specifically about the most stringent rules they can have for visitors, but you are exactly right that the rules apply to everyone and not exclusively visitors.

kube-system 6y ago

I don't think it is the case anywhere currently, but earlier on in the pandemic there was at least one place that put up checkpoints and turned away visitors. Example: https://www.obxtoday.com/coronavirus/updated-dare-county-restricts-visitor-access-to-outer-banks-clarifies-entry-procedure-for-non-resident-workers/ https://www.obxtoday.com/coronavirus/updated-dare-county-res...

slg 6y ago
Just because a government did it doesn't mean it is legal. It seems like that county was quickly sued and had to change its policy.[1][2] I am guessing this restriction wouldn't hold up in court, but you would actually have to get them to court to force them to stop. And the bigger the entity and the more people impacted, the quicker they would end up in court. [1] - https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article241852551.html https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article241852551.htm... [2] - https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article244033667.html https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article2440336...
- kube-system 6y ago
  Yeah for sure, I was just sharing the example. There's a lot of executive actions testing the bounds of the law currently.